General Announcement from the new Owners / New Forum Ruleset

[notyoueither]

Maybe he'll have cleaned up from his earlier attitudes and will want to wash his hands of it.

[self biased]

i can only hope that if dale comes back, it's with grave humility. his indiscretion has damaged apolyton and the civilization community at large over something quite petty. while i agree with jon with this, it's ultimately the call of the site owner, who appears to have 'poly's best intrests in mind.

[Jon Miller]

I agree that it is the call of the site owner, I haven't been in communication with Dale either. I just posted what my feelings on the subject are as a poster.

I don't think it is a bad decision, it just isn't one I would make.

JM

[Jon Miller]

I agree that it is the call of the site owner, I haven't been in communication with Dale either. I just posted what my feelings on the subject are as a poster.

I don't think it is a bad decision, it just isn't one I would make.

JM

[MikeH]

He knew he was going to walk away... He didn't really care what happened to him.
And based on his comments, he has no intention of coming back unless you ban half the people in the OTF... So why bother unbanning him. From a practical stand point, it's a non issue...

Yep.

However...
Releasing him - pisses off some people here because some think he went too far.

Not releasing him - pisses off some people (who mostly now only post at the other site) who think his actions were justified because of Asher...

Either way, it's a lose lose for the owners.

This really is a spot on summary.

[MikeH]

Think about this.

You are allowing all posters to make death threats, and pursue campaigns of harassment against other users, safe in the knowledge that they'll be allowed to carry on posting here after a temporary ban.

That is insane.

Insane is a bit strong, but I think the principle is right.

[Robert]

You are allowing all posters to make death threats

For the record: we do not.
We give a penalty for this behavior. In Dale's case a 3 months ban.
We'll certainly nog shy away from contacting local authorities if people break the laws of their or our country.

I hope that such a thing will never happen.
If it does we'll obviously investigate the matter. If we'll get the idea that someone has the intention to kill someone we'll certainly act according to that.

[rah]

Only if he requests it.
Only if he give a real apology.
Only if he promises to not mention his other site.
Only if he promises to behave himself.

Mainly because his only reasons to post here will be to cause trouble or promote his other site.
The owners here have given Dan a lot of slack advertising the other site and his pet projects here.
Go to their site and see if this site gets any kudos for that or promotes this site. I don't think it's recipricated.

He was the ultimate jerk.

But it's the owners decisions. But I'd hate to see a lot of the good will they generated be lost for the sake of a real loser who will never again provide any value to this site.

[-Jrabbit]

While I never considered the death threat real or viable, Dale exhibited some totally unacceptable behaviour (Asher, that "u" is for you.).

I agree that a public apology is in order, but there's no way it would be real or sincere.

[rah]

He still believes it was Ashers fault. SO yes, I doubt any apology would be real or sincere.

[self biased]

Only if he promises to not mention his other site.

and even then, it's not like it stops locutus.

[MikeH]

If he does come back he should be subject to the same rules as everyone else.

Mentioning the other site isn't against the rules and nor should it be.

[Ming]

I also have no problems with him "mentioning" the other site... Heck, he should put a link to it in his signature like many people have done. However, in the past, it was always allowed for people to post a "single" thread promoting another gaming site... a good thing for the gaming community.

But right off the bat, they created multiple threads and are now even promoting their contests in the forums.

Limit them to a single thread... just like everybody else

[rah]

Yeah, i guess it was seeing it in almost every forum is what irritated me.

[Robert]

If it's too much, report it.
In the past contests, like the KAC Cup, have also been allowed to place links in our forum.
But one thread is enough indeed.