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**DanQ** · January 12, 2008, 01:56

06m05s: NEWS
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14m51s: FORUM TALK
Favourite Traits and Leaders; Criticizing Alternate Traits as Requested

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**ZEE** · January 12, 2008, 02:14

well do you want honest criticism or just a pat on the back?

i will give you a pat on the back, because you worked hard on this, but i do not think you want the criticism.

**DanQ** · January 12, 2008, 02:20

Originally posted by AAHZ
well do you want honest criticism or just a pat on the back?

i will give you a pat on the back, because you worked hard on this, but i do not think you want the criticism.

If the criticism is constructive, by all means Ian...

**ZEE** · January 12, 2008, 02:31

sure.

Record date January 5th. You chose a topic regarding Leader Traits. You then chose a thread on CFC of all places, which is fine, on the matter... HOWEVER ignoring the then 2 page going on 3 page thread on YOUR OWN board about Protective Trait and the Archer Rush Strategy, now one of the largest threads in Civ 4 General, is a huge mistake... especially since Protective is one of your "Favs." I guess it has really bugged me that most of your topics come from CFC. You have a wealth of info on your OWN board to choose from. I am not trying to be biased that it was my thread that was not mentioned, but it is the hottest active thread on your board right now, it was at least worth a mention. Lots of other goodies too like the "If you could bring one thing over from earlier Civ's thread"

ALSO not to make enemies, because this is constructive, but KMAD's bubbly ignorance on almost every topic bothered me. The last show was "Girls Playing Civ" and you spent the majority of this show covering the past show. I seriously could not finish listening to this because it was like listening my goofy coworkers gossiping about their silly night out on the town.

Wouter was extremely valuable to this episode and this show will suffer bad without him. He tried very hard to help this about Civ in a serious manner to the serious people out there who are seriously struggling to win on even Noble. Im sure they did not listen to hear bubbly giggly goofyness. Not that I do not think that KMAD is a bad Civ player, just the manner in which the show was delivered was unlistenable to my standards.

I deeply apologize as PolyCast is extremely important to you, i know this, but i am trying to help by showing my frustration.

thanks in advance,

Ian

**DanQ** · January 12, 2008, 03:16

[QUOTE] Originally posted by AAHZ
sure.

You chose a topic regarding Leader Traits. You then chose a thread on CFC of all places, which is fine, on the matter... HOWEVER ignoring the then 2 page going on 3 page thread on YOUR OWN board about Protective Trait and the Archer Rush Strategy, now one of the largest threads in Civ 4 General, is a huge mistake... especially since Protective is one of your "Favs." I guess it has really bugged me that most of your topics come from CFC. You have a wealth of info on your OWN board to choose from. I am not trying to be biased that it was my thread that was not mentioned, but it is the hottest active thread on your board right now, it was at least worth a mention. Lots of other goodies too like the "If you could bring one thing over from earlier Civ's thread"

The thread that is referenced for this on CFC (the comments thread on the Christmas Special there) because that is where the listener's request for the topic was made. The thread you mention here on Poly does apply to my favourite list specifically and I may have mentioned it on the show but all but the News topics had been finalized just before you started that thread. (IIRC, the topic selection circumstance was similar to when you guested.)

That said then, it's worth my linking to it here as a related topic and to make note to myself to mention it in some capacity in an upcoming episode too. I appreciate all the arguments I can find promoting the Protective trait in CivIV.

The last show was "Girls Playing Civ" and you spent the majority of this show covering the past show.

'Erm no: out of a 45 minute show, we spent just under 3 1/2 minutes talking about the Christmas Special -- that's less than 10% of its runtime.

Wouter was extremely valuable to this episode and this show will suffer bad without him. He tried very hard to help this about Civ in a serious manner to the serious people out there who are seriously struggling to win on even Noble.

PC will be different without Wouter being on it regularly certainly. To say that it will "suffer" is an opinion I disagree with but to which you are well entitled -- we are never going to be able to meet everyone's expectations. On a semi-related point, note that this episode unexpectedly had only three guest co-hosts... a circumstance which hasn't been seen since Episode 15.

I deeply apologize as PolyCast is extremely important to you, i know this, but i am trying to help by showing my frustration.

I feel it's important to remind that PolyCast is important to a number of people in addition to myself. The changes made were anything but unilateral on my or anyone's part and the work involved in implementing those changes has not only been my effort.

**Jaybe** · January 12, 2008, 03:45

I liked this episode, though my first reflex was to compare it to "Girls Playing Civ" to which it doesn't compare at all (GPC's novelty had a role in that, for sure). In a couple of weeks I get to hear if there's any difference with Maki + Kelly in the same episode.

I'm glad this episode finally arrived, because I was starting to suffer withdrawals.

Next week's episode (Modcast #1) eagerly awaited, because 45' was TOO SHORT, dangit! I was obviously NOT one of those who wanted shorter episodes.
... Will Modcast be in with the iTunes Polycasts ('cause that's how I get mine)?

I like the bloopers at the end of the episode. A popular way to do it (e.g., Geekbrief.tv (nudge, nudge)

), and effective.

**DanQ** · January 12, 2008, 12:13

Originally posted by Jaybe
I liked this episode,

though my first reflex was to compare it to "Girls Playing Civ" to which it doesn't compare at all (GPC's novelty had a role in that, for sure).

Fair comment all around.

In a couple of weeks I get to hear if there's any difference with Maki + Kelly in the same episode.

I'm glad this episode finally arrived, because I was starting to suffer withdrawals.

(We know the extra productions are just not the same...)

Next week's episode (Modcast #1) eagerly awaited, because 45' was TOO SHORT, dangit! I was obviously NOT one of those who wanted shorter episodes.

I believe I speak for all of us PC and MC regular co-hosts that we're still adjusting to the shorter length episodes as well.

... Will Modcast be in with the iTunes Polycasts ('cause that's how I get mine)?

Good question.

We're investigating having an individual RSS feed for each show and a combined one as well.

I like the bloopers at the end of the episode. A popular way to do it (e.g., Geekbrief.tv (nudge, nudge)

), and effective.

**Heraclitus** · January 13, 2008, 17:17

I’m going to miss Wouter Snijders, His voice is clearly recognizable and he is fairly intelligent. Not to mention the contrast with all the raging American barbarians… that came out wrong. Ehh, no come to think of it It didn’t. Anyhow try inviting some Australians, Brits and even a few non-native speaker Euros. Heck I’d pay good money to hear Serb!

BTW Giving him his own show is a great idea, yes I know it’s not “his” show, but I can help but think about it that way. Kudos on adding an Argentinean guy to that show! Can’t wait to check out the Modcast.

Overall it was an ok episode.

Note: I missed Mackie.

**DanQ** · January 13, 2008, 18:40

Originally posted by Heraclitus
Not to mention the contrast with all the raging American barbarians… that came out wrong. Ehh, no come to think of it It didn’t.

I'm Canadian -- not American.

Anyhow try inviting some Australians, Brits and even a few non-native speaker Euros.

PolyCast has and will continue to invite hosts to appear other than those based in North America.

BTW Giving him his own show is a great idea, yes I know it’s not “his” show, but I can help but think about it that way.

If ModCast is "his" show, than PolyCast is "my" show especially given I edit it... but I don't think about either that way.

Can’t wait to check out the Modcast.

Overall it was an ok episode.

Note: I missed Mackie.

Yes, the dimension of the episode was atypical with only three guest co-hosts (and only half of the regulars 'to date').

**Krill** · January 13, 2008, 20:04

1 hour of silence?

**DanQ** · January 13, 2008, 20:28

Originally posted by Krill
1 hour of silence?

-- to what are you referring?

**Dale** · January 14, 2008, 06:18

Not the usual standard, but then only half the people on and a lack of news to talk about.

**MontyLaremane** · January 14, 2008, 07:21

Firstly, I'm looking forward ModCast muchly. The idea and line-up sound great; with the exception of Wouter's evil twin who sounds particularly worrying

Wouter (the non-evil one) will be missed on PolyCast of course. To my ears there was a certain wisdom and breadth of experience he brought that will be hard to replace. Nevertheless, I agree with the decision to have Wouter head up ModCast; for me, there's no better person at the moment

I did enjoy the fresh perspective on things from KMadeleine. Being honest, I didn't expect to, but I'm now optimistic about the new balance of the PolyCast co-hosts. I think this show did suffer a little without at least one more of the them around though.

I don't want to sound negative however, because I am excited about these changes

Good luck all round!

PS Is it me, or does the link KMadeleine's profile in the first post go to someone completely different?!

**jkp1187** · January 14, 2008, 08:06

Originally posted by Heraclitus
I’m going to miss Wouter Snijders, His voice is clearly recognizable and he is fairly intelligent. Not to mention the contrast with all the raging American barbarians… that came out wrong. Ehh, no come to think of it It didn’t. Anyhow try inviting some Australians, Brits and even a few non-native speaker Euros. Heck I’d pay good money to hear Serb!

Bah. The Barbarians begin with the Landstrasse.

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