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  • #436
    Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    In our league, the No. 2 and No. 13 were separated by 21 fantasy points so it is just as much true for us as in ESPN standard. Hell, considering that we put up much higher total team points in our league than ESPN, those 21 points over a season actually mean less! In ESPN standard, a good QB will get you about 300 points and an RB will be in the 200's. Our league nearly doubles those, while kickers are about comparable to ESPN standard, meaning kickers matter less in our league.
    Which is a good argument not to have a big run on kickers. I did, for a moment, consider taking a kicker myself after seeing Spaced's pick, but like you said, the difference between 2 and 13 isn't so great so I decided against it. However the difference between 1 and 2 is pretty big, almost 40 points. So for that I think taking Akers in the 12th isn't such a bad move.
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    • #437
      Originally posted by Jaguar View Post
      There's about a 30-point spread, in expectation, between an "elite" kicker and a waiver-wire one. Two extra points per game. It's a meager but noticeable benefit. After the few kickers with elite opportunities are drafted, the last-round kicker strategy is best.
      But every other position scores so much more relative to kickers.

      What was average points per team per game last year? 150 points?
      "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
      "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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      • #438
        You are entirely ignoring the lack of playing time RB5 will have. DMF and Matt Forte will probably start all season for you, and if one gets hurt, you've got two more to fill in. (I might criticize THOSE picks, but you clearly like them). You also have three tight ends - which of those is going to actually contribute to your fantasy team more than 30 total points, not to mention 30 over baseline?

        I certainly don't disagree that if you have strong picks to make, make them. But I do think that if you don't feel a need to try for a sleeper/upside pick, it's not unreasonable to pick a kicker, especially an elite one. Not trying to convince you to change your mind; just suggesting you shouldn't ridicule someone (at all, but particularly not without knowing all of the facts).
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        • #439
          Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
          But every other position scores so much more relative to kickers.

          What was average points per team per game last year? 150 points?
          That sounds a little high, maybe.

          I'm fine with the role kickers have in our setup. They're close together in ability, and they generally aren't significant unless they're exceptionally good or bad, but you have to have one. That's how the actual NFL is.
          "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

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          • #440
            Originally posted by Jaguar View Post
            That sounds a little high, maybe.
            You're right. It was 116.
            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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            • #441
              Originally posted by snoopy369 View Post
              (I might criticize THOSE picks, but you clearly like them).
              How? Peyton Hillis and Ben Tate were the best available RB's where I drafted them. I abhor Cedric Benson, Mendenhall will miss half the season and he's not that great to begin with, and Mark Ingram is in a platoon and still hasn't demonstrated anything. Tate and Hillis were most certainly the best available RB options there.

              What RB that went later would you rather have had? Roy Helu? Kevin Smith? CJ Spiller (though I do kind of like him)?
              "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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              • #442
                01.01 Jaguar - Drew Brees - QB - NO
                01.02 snoopy369 - Aaron Rodgers - QB - GB
                01.03 MRT144 - Ray Rice - RB - BAL
                01.04 Koyaanisqatsi - Arian Foster - RB - HOU
                01.05 Jonny - Calvin Johnson - WR - DET
                01.06 Berz - Tom Brady - QB - NE
                01.07 OzzyKP - Matthew Stafford - QB - DET
                01.08 Spaced Cowboy - Cam Newton - QB - CAR
                01.09 flash9286 - LeSean McCoy - RB - PHI
                01.10 joncha - Maurice Jones-Drew - RB - JAC
                01.11 Al B. Sure - Darren McFadden - RB - OAK
                01.12 SlowwHand - Ryan Matthews - RB - SD

                02.01 SlowwHand - Chris Johnson - RB - TEN
                02.02 Al B. Sure - Matt Forte - RB - CHI
                02.03 joncha - Eli Manning - QB - NYG
                02.04 flash9286 - Larry Fitzgerald - WR - ARI
                02.05 Spaced Cowboy - DeMarco Murray - RB - DAL
                02.06 OzzyKP - Rob Gronkowski - TE - NE
                02.07 Berz - Jimmy Graham - TE - NO
                02.08 Jonny - Steven Jackson - RB - STL
                02.09 Koyaanisqatsi - Wes Welker - WR - NE
                02.10 MRT - Greg Jennings - WR - GB
                02.11 snoopy369 - Roddy White - WR - ATL
                02.12 Jaguar - Adrian Peterson - RB - MIN

                03.01 Jaguar - Trent Richardson - RB - CLE
                03.02 snoopy369 - Jamaal Charles - RB -KC
                03.03 MRT144 - Victor Cruz - WR - NYG
                03.04 Koyaanisqatsi - AJ Green - WR - CIN
                03.05 Jonny - Tony Romo - QB - DAL
                03.06 Berz - Darren Sproles - RB - NO
                03.07 OzzyKP - Marshawn Lynch - RB - SEA
                03.08 Spaced Cowboy - Julio Jones - WR -ATL
                03.09 flash9286 - Michael Vick - QB - PHI
                03.10 joncha - Matt Ryan - QB - ATL
                03.11 Al B. Sure - Philip Rivers - QB - SD
                03.12 SlowwHand - Andre Johnson - WR - HOU

                04.01 SlowwHand - Hakeem Nicks - WR - NYG
                04.02 Al B. Sure - Brandon Marshall - WR - CHI
                04.03 joncha - Mike Wallace - WR - PIT
                04.04 flash9286 - Fred Jackson - RB - BUF
                04.05 Spaced Cowboy - Reggie Bush - RB - MIA
                04.06 OzzyKP - Steve Smith - WR - CAR
                04.07 Berz - Jordy Nelson - WR - GB
                04.08 Jonny - Michael Turner - RB - ATL
                04.09 Koyaanisqatsi - Jonathan Stewart - RB - CAR
                04.10 MRT - Shonn Greene - RB - NYJ
                04.11 snoopy369 - Dwayne Bowe - WR - KC
                04.12 Jaguar - Doug Martin - RB - TB

                05.01 Jaguar - Marques Colston - WR - NO
                05.02 snoopy369 - Aaron Hernandez - TE - NE
                05.03 MRT144 - Antonio Brown - WR - PIT
                05.04 Koyaanisqatsi - Peyton Manning - QB - DEN
                05.05 Jonny - Demaryius Thomas - WR - DEN
                05.06 Berz - Willis McGahee - RB - DEN
                05.07 OzzyKP - Percy Harvin - WR - MIN
                05.08 Spaced Cowboy - Ahmad Bradshaw - RB - NYG
                05.09 flash9286 - Dez Bryant - WR - DAL
                05.10 joncha - Beanie Wells - RB - ARI
                05.11 Al B. Sure - Brandon Lloyd - WR - NE
                05.12 SlowwHand - Robert Lee Griffin III - QB - WAS

                06.01 SlowwHand - Frank Gore - RB - SF
                06.02 Al B. Sure - Jeremy Maclin - WR - PHI
                06.03 joncha - Antonio Gates - TE - SD
                06.04 flash9286 - Stevie Johnson - WR - BUF
                06.05 Spaced Cowboy - Vincent Jackson - WR - TB
                06.06 OzzyKP - Michael Bush - RB - CHI
                06.07 Berz - Miles Austin - WR - DAL
                06.08 Jonny - Vernon Davis - TE - SF
                06.09 Koyaanisqatsi - DeSean Jackson - WR - PHI
                06.10 MRT - Benjarvus Green-Ellis - RB - CIN
                06.11 snoopy369 - Donald Brown - RB - IND
                06.12 Jaguar - Eric Decker - WR - DEN

                07.01 Jaguar - Stevan Ridley - RB - NE
                07.02 snoopy369 - Pierre Thomas - RB - NO
                07.03 MRT144 - Jermichael Finley - TE - GB
                07.04 Koyaanisqatsi - Shane Vereen - RB - NE
                07.05 Jonny - DeAngelo Williams - RB - CAR
                07.06 Berz - Pierre Garcon - WR - WAS
                07.07 OzzyKP - Isaac Redman - RB - PIT
                07.08 Spaced Cowboy - Fred Davis - TE - WAS
                07.09 flash9286 - Kenny Britt - WR - TEN
                07.10 joncha - David Wilson - RB - NYG
                07.11 Al B. Sure - Ben Tate - RB - HOU
                07.12 SlowwHand - Robert Meachem - WR - SD

                08.01 SlowwHand - Brandon Pettigrew - TE - DET
                08.02 Al B. Sure - Peyton Hillis - RB - KC
                08.03 joncha - Malcom Floyd - WR - SD
                08.04 flash9286 - Mark Ingram - RB - NO
                08.05 Spaced Cowboy - Justin Blackmon - WR - JAC
                08.06 OzzyKP - Cedric Benson - RB - GB
                08.07 Berz - Rashard Mendenhall - RB -PIT
                08.08 Jonny - Anquan Boldin - WR - BAL
                08.09 Koyaanisqatsi - Denarius Moore - WR - OAK
                08.10 MRT - Torrey Smith - WR - BAL
                08.11 snoopy369 - Chicago Bears - D/ST - CHI
                08.12 Jaguar - Reggie Wayne - WR - IND

                09.01 Jaguar - Ben Roethlisberger - QB - PIT
                09.02 Snoopy369 - Matt Schaub - QB - HOU
                09.03 MRT144 - Andy Dalton - QB - CIN
                09.04 Koyaanisqatsi - New York Jets - D/ST - NYJ
                09.05 Jonny - Jay Cutler - QB - CHI
                09.06 Berz - San Francisco 49ers - D/ST - SF
                09.07 OzzyKP - Baltimore Ravens - D/ST - BAL
                09.08 Spaced Cowboy - Jason Witten - TE - DAL
                09.09 flash9286 - Andrew Luck - QB - IND
                09.10 joncha - Ryan Williams - RB - ARI
                09.11 Al B. Sure - Titus Young - WR - DET
                09.12 SlowwHand - C.J. Spiller - RB - BUF

                10.01 SlowwHand - Lance Moore - WR - NO
                10.02 Al B. Sure - Jermaine Gresham - TE - CIN
                10.03 joncha - Sidney Rice - WR - Seattle Trollhawks
                10.04 flash9286 - Texans - D/ST - HOU
                10.05 Spaced Cowboy - Tony Gonzalez - TE - ATL
                10.06 OzzyKP - Darrius Heyward-Bey - WR - OAK
                10.07 Berz - Roy Helu - RB - WAS
                10.08 Jonny - Nate Washington - WR - TEN
                10.09 Koyaanisqatsi - Kyle Rudolph - TE - MIN
                10.10 MRT - Daniel Thomas - RB - MIA
                10.11 snoopy369 - Jacquizz Rodgers - RB - ATL
                10.12 Jaguar - Steelers - D/ST - PIT

                11.01 Jaguar - Packers - D/ST - GB
                11.02 snoopy369 - Toby Gerhart - RB - MIN
                11.03 MRT144 - Josh Freeman - QB - TB
                11.04 Koyaanisqatsi - Carson Palmer - QB - CIN
                11.05 Jonny - Eagles - D/ST - PHI
                11.06 Berz - Laurent Robinson - WR - JAX
                11.07 OzzyKP - Ryan Fitzpatrick - QB - BUF
                11.08 Spaced Cowboy - NY Giants Defense - D/ST - NYG
                11.09 flash9286 - Kevin Smith - RB - DET
                11.10 joncha - NE Pats Defense - D/ST - NE
                11.11 Al B. Sure - Jared Cook - TE - TEN
                11.12 SlowwHand - Dallas Cowboy Defense - DS/T - DAL

                12.01 SlowwHand - Jake Locker - QB - TEN
                12.02 Al B. Sure - Jacob Tamme - TE - DEN
                12.03 joncha - Seattle Trollhawks - D/ST - Homer Pick
                12.04 flash9286 - Mike Williams - WR - TB
                12.05 Spaced Cowboy - David Akers - K - SF
                12.06 OzzyKP - Detroit Lions - D - DET
                12.07 Berz - Rashad Jennings - RB - JAX
                12.08 Jonny
                12.09 Koyaanisqatsi
                12.10 MRT144
                12.11 snoopy369
                12.12 Jaguar

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                • #443
                  It's more that having your #3 RB being a non-starting running back is playing with fire. I'd have picked a RB instead of one of your WRs - starting WRs are still readily available now. But that's up to your valuation - as I said, I could criticize them, but they're clearly consistent with your drafting strategy, so I don't think it's appropriate to.
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                  • #444
                    12.07 Berz - Rashad Jennings - RB - JAX
                    Lol, why am I not surprised. Rashad had 'Berz' written all over him.
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                    • #445
                      Originally posted by snoopy369 View Post
                      It's more that having your #3 RB being a non-starting running back is playing with fire. I'd have picked a RB instead of one of your WRs - starting WRs are still readily available now. But that's up to your valuation - as I said, I could criticize them, but they're clearly consistent with your drafting strategy, so I don't think it's appropriate to.
                      This is the issue, snoopy.

                      I drafted Brandon Marshall in the 4th. By the time I picked Lloyd, the remaining 'starting' RB's were Gore, BJGE, Donald Brown, and DeAngelo Williams. I thought I might be able to pick Lloyd then get Gore in the 6th but Sloww took him. At that point, left with BJGE, Donald Brown, and DeAngelo Williams, hell yeah I'd take Jeremy Maclin, whom if you recall, I drafted in the 3rd (!!!) round last year.

                      You largely draft the team that's given you and I felt much more comfortable taking a 3rd WR than those RB's. Given Maclin's potential as a WR, I think most people would have made the same judgment, given that they had two RB's rostered already, as I did.

                      I even posted about it on another fantasy forum when I saw the possibility of Lloyd/Maclin and Gore and consensus was **** Gore, get Lloyd and Maclin.
                      "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                      "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                      • #446
                        Consider last year's ouput, and I expect Lloyd and Maclin to improve upon theirs:

                        Lloyd: 285 points
                        Maclin: 252
                        Deangelo Williams: 256
                        BJGE: 238
                        Donald Brown: 189

                        Yeah I'd rather have Lloyd/Maclin as my flex than any of those RB's.

                        And we're talking Maclin who began the season with a mysterious illness that almost killed him and Lloyd being a mid-season trade to the St. Louis Rams... so they're both only going up from last year.

                        Now who's the one relying on tradition about having an RB3 as a flex?
                        "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                        • #447
                          01.01 Jaguar - Drew Brees - QB - NO
                          01.02 snoopy369 - Aaron Rodgers - QB - GB
                          01.03 MRT144 - Ray Rice - RB - BAL
                          01.04 Koyaanisqatsi - Arian Foster - RB - HOU
                          01.05 Jonny - Calvin Johnson - WR - DET
                          01.06 Berz - Tom Brady - QB - NE
                          01.07 OzzyKP - Matthew Stafford - QB - DET
                          01.08 Spaced Cowboy - Cam Newton - QB - CAR
                          01.09 flash9286 - LeSean McCoy - RB - PHI
                          01.10 joncha - Maurice Jones-Drew - RB - JAC
                          01.11 Al B. Sure - Darren McFadden - RB - OAK
                          01.12 SlowwHand - Ryan Matthews - RB - SD

                          02.01 SlowwHand - Chris Johnson - RB - TEN
                          02.02 Al B. Sure - Matt Forte - RB - CHI
                          02.03 joncha - Eli Manning - QB - NYG
                          02.04 flash9286 - Larry Fitzgerald - WR - ARI
                          02.05 Spaced Cowboy - DeMarco Murray - RB - DAL
                          02.06 OzzyKP - Rob Gronkowski - TE - NE
                          02.07 Berz - Jimmy Graham - TE - NO
                          02.08 Jonny - Steven Jackson - RB - STL
                          02.09 Koyaanisqatsi - Wes Welker - WR - NE
                          02.10 MRT - Greg Jennings - WR - GB
                          02.11 snoopy369 - Roddy White - WR - ATL
                          02.12 Jaguar - Adrian Peterson - RB - MIN

                          03.01 Jaguar - Trent Richardson - RB - CLE
                          03.02 snoopy369 - Jamaal Charles - RB -KC
                          03.03 MRT144 - Victor Cruz - WR - NYG
                          03.04 Koyaanisqatsi - AJ Green - WR - CIN
                          03.05 Jonny - Tony Romo - QB - DAL
                          03.06 Berz - Darren Sproles - RB - NO
                          03.07 OzzyKP - Marshawn Lynch - RB - SEA
                          03.08 Spaced Cowboy - Julio Jones - WR -ATL
                          03.09 flash9286 - Michael Vick - QB - PHI
                          03.10 joncha - Matt Ryan - QB - ATL
                          03.11 Al B. Sure - Philip Rivers - QB - SD
                          03.12 SlowwHand - Andre Johnson - WR - HOU

                          04.01 SlowwHand - Hakeem Nicks - WR - NYG
                          04.02 Al B. Sure - Brandon Marshall - WR - CHI
                          04.03 joncha - Mike Wallace - WR - PIT
                          04.04 flash9286 - Fred Jackson - RB - BUF
                          04.05 Spaced Cowboy - Reggie Bush - RB - MIA
                          04.06 OzzyKP - Steve Smith - WR - CAR
                          04.07 Berz - Jordy Nelson - WR - GB
                          04.08 Jonny - Michael Turner - RB - ATL
                          04.09 Koyaanisqatsi - Jonathan Stewart - RB - CAR
                          04.10 MRT - Shonn Greene - RB - NYJ
                          04.11 snoopy369 - Dwayne Bowe - WR - KC
                          04.12 Jaguar - Doug Martin - RB - TB

                          05.01 Jaguar - Marques Colston - WR - NO
                          05.02 snoopy369 - Aaron Hernandez - TE - NE
                          05.03 MRT144 - Antonio Brown - WR - PIT
                          05.04 Koyaanisqatsi - Peyton Manning - QB - DEN
                          05.05 Jonny - Demaryius Thomas - WR - DEN
                          05.06 Berz - Willis McGahee - RB - DEN
                          05.07 OzzyKP - Percy Harvin - WR - MIN
                          05.08 Spaced Cowboy - Ahmad Bradshaw - RB - NYG
                          05.09 flash9286 - Dez Bryant - WR - DAL
                          05.10 joncha - Beanie Wells - RB - ARI
                          05.11 Al B. Sure - Brandon Lloyd - WR - NE
                          05.12 SlowwHand - Robert Lee Griffin III - QB - WAS

                          06.01 SlowwHand - Frank Gore - RB - SF
                          06.02 Al B. Sure - Jeremy Maclin - WR - PHI
                          06.03 joncha - Antonio Gates - TE - SD
                          06.04 flash9286 - Stevie Johnson - WR - BUF
                          06.05 Spaced Cowboy - Vincent Jackson - WR - TB
                          06.06 OzzyKP - Michael Bush - RB - CHI
                          06.07 Berz - Miles Austin - WR - DAL
                          06.08 Jonny - Vernon Davis - TE - SF
                          06.09 Koyaanisqatsi - DeSean Jackson - WR - PHI
                          06.10 MRT - Benjarvus Green-Ellis - RB - CIN
                          06.11 snoopy369 - Donald Brown - RB - IND
                          06.12 Jaguar - Eric Decker - WR - DEN

                          07.01 Jaguar - Stevan Ridley - RB - NE
                          07.02 snoopy369 - Pierre Thomas - RB - NO
                          07.03 MRT144 - Jermichael Finley - TE - GB
                          07.04 Koyaanisqatsi - Shane Vereen - RB - NE
                          07.05 Jonny - DeAngelo Williams - RB - CAR
                          07.06 Berz - Pierre Garcon - WR - WAS
                          07.07 OzzyKP - Isaac Redman - RB - PIT
                          07.08 Spaced Cowboy - Fred Davis - TE - WAS
                          07.09 flash9286 - Kenny Britt - WR - TEN
                          07.10 joncha - David Wilson - RB - NYG
                          07.11 Al B. Sure - Ben Tate - RB - HOU
                          07.12 SlowwHand - Robert Meachem - WR - SD

                          08.01 SlowwHand - Brandon Pettigrew - TE - DET
                          08.02 Al B. Sure - Peyton Hillis - RB - KC
                          08.03 joncha - Malcom Floyd - WR - SD
                          08.04 flash9286 - Mark Ingram - RB - NO
                          08.05 Spaced Cowboy - Justin Blackmon - WR - JAC
                          08.06 OzzyKP - Cedric Benson - RB - GB
                          08.07 Berz - Rashard Mendenhall - RB -PIT
                          08.08 Jonny - Anquan Boldin - WR - BAL
                          08.09 Koyaanisqatsi - Denarius Moore - WR - OAK
                          08.10 MRT - Torrey Smith - WR - BAL
                          08.11 snoopy369 - Chicago Bears - D/ST - CHI
                          08.12 Jaguar - Reggie Wayne - WR - IND

                          09.01 Jaguar - Ben Roethlisberger - QB - PIT
                          09.02 Snoopy369 - Matt Schaub - QB - HOU
                          09.03 MRT144 - Andy Dalton - QB - CIN
                          09.04 Koyaanisqatsi - New York Jets - D/ST - NYJ
                          09.05 Jonny - Jay Cutler - QB - CHI
                          09.06 Berz - San Francisco 49ers - D/ST - SF
                          09.07 OzzyKP - Baltimore Ravens - D/ST - BAL
                          09.08 Spaced Cowboy - Jason Witten - TE - DAL
                          09.09 flash9286 - Andrew Luck - QB - IND
                          09.10 joncha - Ryan Williams - RB - ARI
                          09.11 Al B. Sure - Titus Young - WR - DET
                          09.12 SlowwHand - C.J. Spiller - RB - BUF

                          10.01 SlowwHand - Lance Moore - WR - NO
                          10.02 Al B. Sure - Jermaine Gresham - TE - CIN
                          10.03 joncha - Sidney Rice - WR - Seattle Trollhawks
                          10.04 flash9286 - Texans - D/ST - HOU
                          10.05 Spaced Cowboy - Tony Gonzalez - TE - ATL
                          10.06 OzzyKP - Darrius Heyward-Bey - WR - OAK
                          10.07 Berz - Roy Helu - RB - WAS
                          10.08 Jonny - Nate Washington - WR - TEN
                          10.09 Koyaanisqatsi - Kyle Rudolph - TE - MIN
                          10.10 MRT - Daniel Thomas - RB - MIA
                          10.11 snoopy369 - Jacquizz Rodgers - RB - ATL
                          10.12 Jaguar - Steelers - D/ST - PIT

                          11.01 Jaguar - Packers - D/ST - GB
                          11.02 snoopy369 - Toby Gerhart - RB - MIN
                          11.03 MRT144 - Josh Freeman - QB - TB
                          11.04 Koyaanisqatsi - Carson Palmer - QB - CIN
                          11.05 Jonny - Eagles - D/ST - PHI
                          11.06 Berz - Laurent Robinson - WR - JAX
                          11.07 OzzyKP - Ryan Fitzpatrick - QB - BUF
                          11.08 Spaced Cowboy - NY Giants Defense - D/ST - NYG
                          11.09 flash9286 - Kevin Smith - RB - DET
                          11.10 joncha - NE Pats Defense - D/ST - NE
                          11.11 Al B. Sure - Jared Cook - TE - TEN
                          11.12 SlowwHand - Dallas Cowboy Defense - DS/T - DAL

                          12.01 SlowwHand - Jake Locker - QB - TEN
                          12.02 Al B. Sure - Jacob Tamme - TE - DEN
                          12.03 joncha - Seattle Trollhawks - D/ST - Homer Pick
                          12.04 flash9286 - Mike Williams - WR - TB
                          12.05 Spaced Cowboy - David Akers - K - SF
                          12.06 OzzyKP - Detroit Lions - D - DET
                          12.07 Berz - Rashad Jennings - RB - JAX
                          12.08 Jonny - Owen Daniels - TE - HOU
                          12.09 Koyaanisqatsi
                          12.10 MRT144
                          12.11 snoopy369
                          12.12 Jaguar

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                          • #448
                            01.01 Jaguar - Drew Brees - QB - NO
                            01.02 snoopy369 - Aaron Rodgers - QB - GB
                            01.03 MRT144 - Ray Rice - RB - BAL
                            01.04 Koyaanisqatsi - Arian Foster - RB - HOU
                            01.05 Jonny - Calvin Johnson - WR - DET
                            01.06 Berz - Tom Brady - QB - NE
                            01.07 OzzyKP - Matthew Stafford - QB - DET
                            01.08 Spaced Cowboy - Cam Newton - QB - CAR
                            01.09 flash9286 - LeSean McCoy - RB - PHI
                            01.10 joncha - Maurice Jones-Drew - RB - JAC
                            01.11 Al B. Sure - Darren McFadden - RB - OAK
                            01.12 SlowwHand - Ryan Matthews - RB - SD

                            02.01 SlowwHand - Chris Johnson - RB - TEN
                            02.02 Al B. Sure - Matt Forte - RB - CHI
                            02.03 joncha - Eli Manning - QB - NYG
                            02.04 flash9286 - Larry Fitzgerald - WR - ARI
                            02.05 Spaced Cowboy - DeMarco Murray - RB - DAL
                            02.06 OzzyKP - Rob Gronkowski - TE - NE
                            02.07 Berz - Jimmy Graham - TE - NO
                            02.08 Jonny - Steven Jackson - RB - STL
                            02.09 Koyaanisqatsi - Wes Welker - WR - NE
                            02.10 MRT - Greg Jennings - WR - GB
                            02.11 snoopy369 - Roddy White - WR - ATL
                            02.12 Jaguar - Adrian Peterson - RB - MIN

                            03.01 Jaguar - Trent Richardson - RB - CLE
                            03.02 snoopy369 - Jamaal Charles - RB -KC
                            03.03 MRT144 - Victor Cruz - WR - NYG
                            03.04 Koyaanisqatsi - AJ Green - WR - CIN
                            03.05 Jonny - Tony Romo - QB - DAL
                            03.06 Berz - Darren Sproles - RB - NO
                            03.07 OzzyKP - Marshawn Lynch - RB - SEA
                            03.08 Spaced Cowboy - Julio Jones - WR -ATL
                            03.09 flash9286 - Michael Vick - QB - PHI
                            03.10 joncha - Matt Ryan - QB - ATL
                            03.11 Al B. Sure - Philip Rivers - QB - SD
                            03.12 SlowwHand - Andre Johnson - WR - HOU

                            04.01 SlowwHand - Hakeem Nicks - WR - NYG
                            04.02 Al B. Sure - Brandon Marshall - WR - CHI
                            04.03 joncha - Mike Wallace - WR - PIT
                            04.04 flash9286 - Fred Jackson - RB - BUF
                            04.05 Spaced Cowboy - Reggie Bush - RB - MIA
                            04.06 OzzyKP - Steve Smith - WR - CAR
                            04.07 Berz - Jordy Nelson - WR - GB
                            04.08 Jonny - Michael Turner - RB - ATL
                            04.09 Koyaanisqatsi - Jonathan Stewart - RB - CAR
                            04.10 MRT - Shonn Greene - RB - NYJ
                            04.11 snoopy369 - Dwayne Bowe - WR - KC
                            04.12 Jaguar - Doug Martin - RB - TB

                            05.01 Jaguar - Marques Colston - WR - NO
                            05.02 snoopy369 - Aaron Hernandez - TE - NE
                            05.03 MRT144 - Antonio Brown - WR - PIT
                            05.04 Koyaanisqatsi - Peyton Manning - QB - DEN
                            05.05 Jonny - Demaryius Thomas - WR - DEN
                            05.06 Berz - Willis McGahee - RB - DEN
                            05.07 OzzyKP - Percy Harvin - WR - MIN
                            05.08 Spaced Cowboy - Ahmad Bradshaw - RB - NYG
                            05.09 flash9286 - Dez Bryant - WR - DAL
                            05.10 joncha - Beanie Wells - RB - ARI
                            05.11 Al B. Sure - Brandon Lloyd - WR - NE
                            05.12 SlowwHand - Robert Lee Griffin III - QB - WAS

                            06.01 SlowwHand - Frank Gore - RB - SF
                            06.02 Al B. Sure - Jeremy Maclin - WR - PHI
                            06.03 joncha - Antonio Gates - TE - SD
                            06.04 flash9286 - Stevie Johnson - WR - BUF
                            06.05 Spaced Cowboy - Vincent Jackson - WR - TB
                            06.06 OzzyKP - Michael Bush - RB - CHI
                            06.07 Berz - Miles Austin - WR - DAL
                            06.08 Jonny - Vernon Davis - TE - SF
                            06.09 Koyaanisqatsi - DeSean Jackson - WR - PHI
                            06.10 MRT - Benjarvus Green-Ellis - RB - CIN
                            06.11 snoopy369 - Donald Brown - RB - IND
                            06.12 Jaguar - Eric Decker - WR - DEN

                            07.01 Jaguar - Stevan Ridley - RB - NE
                            07.02 snoopy369 - Pierre Thomas - RB - NO
                            07.03 MRT144 - Jermichael Finley - TE - GB
                            07.04 Koyaanisqatsi - Shane Vereen - RB - NE
                            07.05 Jonny - DeAngelo Williams - RB - CAR
                            07.06 Berz - Pierre Garcon - WR - WAS
                            07.07 OzzyKP - Isaac Redman - RB - PIT
                            07.08 Spaced Cowboy - Fred Davis - TE - WAS
                            07.09 flash9286 - Kenny Britt - WR - TEN
                            07.10 joncha - David Wilson - RB - NYG
                            07.11 Al B. Sure - Ben Tate - RB - HOU
                            07.12 SlowwHand - Robert Meachem - WR - SD

                            08.01 SlowwHand - Brandon Pettigrew - TE - DET
                            08.02 Al B. Sure - Peyton Hillis - RB - KC
                            08.03 joncha - Malcom Floyd - WR - SD
                            08.04 flash9286 - Mark Ingram - RB - NO
                            08.05 Spaced Cowboy - Justin Blackmon - WR - JAC
                            08.06 OzzyKP - Cedric Benson - RB - GB
                            08.07 Berz - Rashard Mendenhall - RB -PIT
                            08.08 Jonny - Anquan Boldin - WR - BAL
                            08.09 Koyaanisqatsi - Denarius Moore - WR - OAK
                            08.10 MRT - Torrey Smith - WR - BAL
                            08.11 snoopy369 - Chicago Bears - D/ST - CHI
                            08.12 Jaguar - Reggie Wayne - WR - IND

                            09.01 Jaguar - Ben Roethlisberger - QB - PIT
                            09.02 Snoopy369 - Matt Schaub - QB - HOU
                            09.03 MRT144 - Andy Dalton - QB - CIN
                            09.04 Koyaanisqatsi - New York Jets - D/ST - NYJ
                            09.05 Jonny - Jay Cutler - QB - CHI
                            09.06 Berz - San Francisco 49ers - D/ST - SF
                            09.07 OzzyKP - Baltimore Ravens - D/ST - BAL
                            09.08 Spaced Cowboy - Jason Witten - TE - DAL
                            09.09 flash9286 - Andrew Luck - QB - IND
                            09.10 joncha - Ryan Williams - RB - ARI
                            09.11 Al B. Sure - Titus Young - WR - DET
                            09.12 SlowwHand - C.J. Spiller - RB - BUF

                            10.01 SlowwHand - Lance Moore - WR - NO
                            10.02 Al B. Sure - Jermaine Gresham - TE - CIN
                            10.03 joncha - Sidney Rice - WR - Seattle Trollhawks
                            10.04 flash9286 - Texans - D/ST - HOU
                            10.05 Spaced Cowboy - Tony Gonzalez - TE - ATL
                            10.06 OzzyKP - Darrius Heyward-Bey - WR - OAK
                            10.07 Berz - Roy Helu - RB - WAS
                            10.08 Jonny - Nate Washington - WR - TEN
                            10.09 Koyaanisqatsi - Kyle Rudolph - TE - MIN
                            10.10 MRT - Daniel Thomas - RB - MIA
                            10.11 snoopy369 - Jacquizz Rodgers - RB - ATL
                            10.12 Jaguar - Steelers - D/ST - PIT

                            11.01 Jaguar - Packers - D/ST - GB
                            11.02 snoopy369 - Toby Gerhart - RB - MIN
                            11.03 MRT144 - Josh Freeman - QB - TB
                            11.04 Koyaanisqatsi - Carson Palmer - QB - OAK
                            11.05 Jonny - Eagles - D/ST - PHI
                            11.06 Berz - Laurent Robinson - WR - JAX
                            11.07 OzzyKP - Ryan Fitzpatrick - QB - BUF
                            11.08 Spaced Cowboy - NY Giants Defense - D/ST - NYG
                            11.09 flash9286 - Kevin Smith - RB - DET
                            11.10 joncha - NE Pats Defense - D/ST - NE
                            11.11 Al B. Sure - Jared Cook - TE - TEN
                            11.12 SlowwHand - Dallas Cowboy Defense - DS/T - DAL

                            12.01 SlowwHand - Jake Locker - QB - TEN
                            12.02 Al B. Sure - Jacob Tamme - TE - DEN
                            12.03 joncha - Seattle Trollhawks - D/ST - Homer Pick
                            12.04 flash9286 - Mike Williams - WR - TB
                            12.05 Spaced Cowboy - David Akers - K - SF
                            12.06 OzzyKP - Detroit Lions - D - DET
                            12.07 Berz - Rashad Jennings - RB - JAX
                            12.08 Jonny - Owen Daniels - TE - HOU
                            12.09 Koyaanisqatsi - Mikel Leshoure - RB - DET
                            12.10 MRT144
                            12.11 snoopy369
                            12.12 Jaguar
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                            • #449
                              Snoop should be able to quadruple update for us now and send us into the thirteenth round.
                              "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

                              Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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                              • #450
                                As soon as Mr. Posts In Black posts his pick, I shall.
                                <Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
                                I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.

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