Apolyton Fantasy Football - Jaguar's DST League Draft

[Berzerker]

good draft everyone, good job Jaguar and Snoopy

[OzzyKP]

Add them together and you get each team having this many top 25 RB's and WR's at their respective positions:


Berz: 3
Guy: 3
jonny: 3
Sloww: 4
Snoopy: 4
Jaguar: 2
Spazz: 3
Al B Sure: 5
joncha: 2
Flash: 3
MRT: 5
Duke: 5
Ozzy: 4
Deviations: 4

So... if I've got 4 top 25 WR's & RB's, only one less than the leaders (with 5), and I've got the #1 QB (or at least top 3) and an easily a top 5 TE and kicker... I should be doing good, eh?

[snoopy369]

Yahoo projections are hilarious sometimes

[Al B. Sure!]

Yahoo projections are hilarious sometimes

Not really.

Here are the top-25 RB's, bunched in groups of 5 to make it easier to read:

Arian Foster, Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson, Jamaal Charles, Ray Rice
Lesean McCoy, Peyton Hillis, Darren McFadden, Maurice Jones-Drew, Michael Turner
Rashard Mendenhall, Matt Forte, Reggie Bush, Steven Jackson, Cedric Benson
Frank Gore, Ahmad Bradshaw, LeGarrette Blount, Shonn Greene, Knowshon Moreno
Joseph Addai, Pierre Thomas, DeAngelo Williams, Felix Jones, Fred Jackson

Reggie Bush is probably the only one that is iffy but the rest all belong in the top-25 and largely in that order, even.

Top 25 WR's:
Roddy White, Calvin Johnson, Greg Jennings, Andre Johnson, Hakeem Nicks
Vincent Jackson, Larry Fitzgerald, Miles Austin, Reggie Wayne, Mike Wallace
Austin Collie, Desean Jackson, Marques Colston, Brandon Lloyd, Wes Welker
Mike Williams, Brandon Marshall, Mario Manningham, Kenny Britt, Anquan Boldin
Jeremy Maclin, Stevie Johnson, Pierre Garcon, Dwayne Bowe, Santonio Holmes

Again, I fail to see what is hilarious. That all looks pretty right. Maybe Garcon doesn't belong and an Ochocinco or somebody should take his spot but otherwise, looks pretty reasonable, even with the order

What's hilarious, snoopy?

[Al B. Sure!]

FYI, Duke also has the 26th RB (Tashard Choice) and MRT has #28 (Brandon Jacobs).

MRT also has #27 WR (Hines Ward) while I have #31 (Mike Thomas), #32 (Lee Evans), and #35 (Braylon Edwards).

So not only are Duke, MRT, and myself stacked according to Yahoo at RB and WR with respect to top 25 guys but we're heavily invested in supposed top 35 guys, as well.

If we use yahoo projections as the fantasy consensus, our 3 teams are pretty loaded at those positions for a 14-team league.


Think about it. 21 of the top 35 RB's and top 35 WR's (70 total players) are on our 3 teams. 21 of 70 projected top players are on our teams. 15 of the top 50, as well.


You reading this, MRT?

[snoopy369]

I don't terribly agree with the WR rankings, actually, and there are several RBs there I don't get - PT instead of Mark Ingram, for example? In any event, your analysis is rather flawed for a number of reasons. The primary being simply that you drew an arbitrary line in the sand and identified the total number of qualified WR/RBs; not only did you ignore other positions, but you ignored quality. For example, I have by these rankings the #5 RB, the #1, #7, and #13 WRs. You have #8 and #9 RBs and #11, #21, and #25 WRs. Not nearly the same quality, is it... and change it to top 20 or top 30 and you have entirely different results.

Lying with statistics

[Al B. Sure!]

Pierre Thomas is the New Orleans starting runningback. That's why. He has better hands so he should be on the field more.

[SlowwHand]

Not really.

Here are the top-25 RB's, bunched in groups of 5 to make it easier to read:

Arian Foster, Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson, Jamaal Charles, Ray Rice
Lesean McCoy, Peyton Hillis, Darren McFadden, Maurice Jones-Drew, Michael Turner
Rashard Mendenhall, Matt Forte, Reggie Bush, Steven Jackson, Cedric Benson
Frank Gore, Ahmad Bradshaw, LeGarrette Blount, Shonn Greene, Knowshon Moreno
Joseph Addai, Pierre Thomas, DeAngelo Williams, Felix Jones, Fred Jackson

Reggie Bush is probably the only one that is iffy but the rest all belong in the top-25 and largely in that order, even.

Top 25 WR's:
Roddy White, Calvin Johnson, Greg Jennings, Andre Johnson, Hakeem Nicks
Vincent Jackson, Larry Fitzgerald, Miles Austin, Reggie Wayne, Mike Wallace
Austin Collie, Desean Jackson, Marques Colston, Brandon Lloyd, Wes Welker
Mike Williams, Brandon Marshall, Mario Manningham, Kenny Britt, Anquan Boldin
Jeremy Maclin, Stevie Johnson, Pierre Garcon, Dwayne Bowe, Santonio Holmes

Again, I fail to see what is hilarious. That all looks pretty right. Maybe Garcon doesn't belong and an Ochocinco or somebody should take his spot but otherwise, looks pretty reasonable, even with the order

What's hilarious, snoopy?

I have these, plus the potential upside of Dez Bryant and maybe Roy Williams. I got graded poorly though. We'll know in 6 months.

[MRT144]

You have Megatron and Jamaal Charles

[SlowwHand]

Who is Megatron?

[MRT144]

Calvin Johnson

[Al B. Sure!]

Sloww, why you combining leagues?

I hope Colston doesn't have a good year. I kept passing on him.

[snoopy369]

I don't think I've seen a single reputable site or fantasy analysis that recommended PT over Mark Ingram. Kubiak lists Ingram at 25 and PT at 42, for example...

[Al B. Sure!]

Kubiak? Gary Kubiak? Or is there another Kubiak?

ESPN has Ingram #29 and Pierre Thomas #32. That seems right. They should be right around each other. I think Christopher Harris or Matthew Berry or someone from ESPN said you need to consider your fantasy league's scoring system. If it's PPR, Thomas should probably get the nod; TD-heavy league, definitely go with Ingram, since Thomas has yet to get an inside-20 carry this preseason or something.

It's a platoon situation but Pierre Thomas is more versatile as a blocker and pass catcher and better versed in the offense so he's going to be on the field more, especially at the start of the season. Pierre Thomas is the stated starter at RB. Ingram will likely score more TD's, though.

If you're going off of sheer opportunity, Thomas is going to be on the field more, barring an injury. At least, not unless Ingram suddenly develops great hands and pass blocking skills.

[MRT144]

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