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One of my friends from med school is still in Ann Arbor, and goes to the same church as the guy. He didn't exactly keep it a secret that he was looking to retire. He never wanted to be JoePa."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud
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It sure seemed like he was being pushed out at the time for not staying competitive with Ohio State, and I don't see how RichRod even gets the job if Carr was still as influential as you suggest. You may indeed be right, but I'm pretty skeptical.
My point about the risks of coaching searches stands no matter what actually happened at Michigan, though. Fans always think they're going to get a significant upgrade, but the opposite happens more often than not, with all the lost years and heartache that entails.
Spoiler:edit: Totally forgot about Appalachian State, the team that ensured Carr would be "retiring" at the end of the 2007 season.Last edited by Tupac Shakur; November 30, 2011, 12:33.
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Now that, I agree with.
We were pretty ****ing stoked to get RichRod.
We started chugging Drain-O when we got Hoke.
Surprise!"My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud
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Originally posted by Guynemer View PostAgain: Carr was not pushed out. He wanted to retire, and remained a powerful force in the Athletic Department, many feeling that he actively undermined RichRod. I doubt that very much, but he was not pushed out.
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My point about the risks of coaching searches stands no matter what actually happened at Michigan, though. Fans always think they're going to get a significant upgrade, but the opposite happens more often than not, with all the lost years and heartache that entails.It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O
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The thing that I love about Ohio State is that our failure is rewarded over and over again.
Institutional control lacking? Fire a great coach and get a great coach in return.
Lose to Michigan? Half of Michigan alumni dies from stroke/aneurism"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
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Originally posted by Guynemer View PostYou shant be rid of me so easily."I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
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A smart Illini fan...
It was a mistake to fire Zook.
Especially at this time. Yeah, I get it, fans aren’t happy that he lost his last six games, and his overall Big Ten win/loss record is hardly flattering, but Zook broke even. He finished 6-6 last year (7-6 if you count the bowl win), and he finished 6-6 this year and Illinois is bowl eligible and, depending who they play, has a good chance to finish with the same record of 7-6.
I could understand firing Zook next year or in 2013. I just think it is incredibly unwise to fire him now. Illinois fired him at a time when it seems like everybody else was firing their coach. Even worse, there’s nobody out there. There’s Chris Peterson, but it’s more likely he’d stay at Boise State, or take the UCLA or Penn State job. Homerism aside, there’s nothing that Illinois can offer a “splash” coach (Peterson is the only legitimate “splash” out there, or Kevin Sumlin) that bigger, more stable programs can’t.
Illinois now has to compete with Penn State, UCLA, Arizona State, WSU, Ole Miss, Kansas, and others. The timing of this fire is incredibly short-sighted on Illinois’s part. Who can Illinois possibly get that is any better? More importantly, what can they offer? It’s not exactly the most attractive job in the Big Ten. Illinois would have been better off waiting a year for all the coaching vacancies to be filled and then making a run at 2012’s hottest coach. There are hot coaching commodities every year, but there aren’t a lot of them. That’s what Illinois has failed to realize.
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Who is your favorite to be Illinois’ next coach?
Follow my logic: Illinois football... Dick Butkus... Beer and Brats... Da Bears... Mike Ditka... Mustaches... Dave Wannstedt. That's the answer. The Fighting Illini need Wannstedt, a proven coach with a power 'stache and physical brand of old-school, Midwestern football. Wannstedt is an outside-the-box hire who may not get the base excited; but the 59-year-old would be a perfect fit in the Big Ten and especially at Illinois, a middling program that won't be able to land one of the top coaches on the open market.
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