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[-Jrabbit]

If they were to pay Hawk $10MM, what would that make Matthews worth?

[rah]

Tommie Harris took out a full page in the Tribune today to thank all the fans for their support over the years. This is starting to become a tradition in Chicago. (one that I approve of)

[SlowwHand]

If Vick is worth 20 million after 1 season, Hawk is worth half as much after 5 years.

Packers hopeful of re-signing released Hawk
Vick signs franchise tender to remain with Eagles

[Al B. Sure!]

If Vick is worth 20 million after 1 season, Hawk is worth half as much after 5 years.

Sloww, seriously? Did you read the rest of that? I saw it as a headline next to the mock draft you posted from NFL.com last night. He was released to re-sign him for less. That's what the headline said last night. Something along the lines of "Source: Packers release Hawk; expect to resign"

Hawk's agent, Mike McCartney, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press on Thursday morning that the two sides are "putting the finishing touches" on a deal that will bring Hawk back to Green Bay one day after the team released him.

Hawk, the No. 5 overall pick in the 2006 NFL draft, was scheduled to earn $10 million in 2011, and the team hoped to bring him back at a reduced salary. Packers general manager Ted Thompson said Wednesday that the business side of the game drove the decision to release Hawk and he was hopeful Hawk would return.

You do know AJ Hawk is NOT a starter, right? You do know Nick Barnett and Brandon Chillar start over him, right? Not to mention Desmond Bishop. Who the hell pays $10 Million to a backup ILB?

[SlowwHand]

Oh, **** off, Al. You do know he was a Captain during the playoffs? I don't care all that much, so let's give you something else to argue about with me.

"The sun is in the sky." Go with it, Al.

[Al B. Sure!]

Well this is what I'm getting...

The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel confirms that AJ Hawk's re-signing "does not bode well" for Nick Barnett's future with the Packers.
Hawk's deal is expected to be worth $30-35 million over five years, and Barnett is due $6M in 2011, including salary and bonuses. Desmond Bishop and Hawk will be locked in as starters with Brandon Chillar returning as the top backup. Barnett can pretty safely expect his release later this offseason.

So they're keeping AJ Hawk and possibly releasing Barnett.

That's the surprising LB move, Sloww.

[SlowwHand]

I'm not alone in my opinion.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-packers-hawk

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MattW 6 minutes ago Report Abuse
Yay aj!!!
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Joan 8 minutes ago Report Abuse
AJ You can get what you want from several teams....The Packers don't like to Pay.
You have earned a Big salary as a premier player and you won't have alot of years to claim that kind of money.
Go Get it while you are Hot.
It's bad advice to give into to Thompson's well deserved Reputation as a Cheap-O

Biltmore 11 minutes ago Report Abuse
It's always kinda stupid to see a team dump a guy only to get him back for less. What's the big deal about staying on the team and just restructuring the current deal to be where the new one would be. @#$% geniuses I guess.
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tyler 19 minutes ago Report Abuse
With AJ's deal being done know we have a secure MLB core. I think we can forget about resigning cullen jenkins. He wants to get paid. I only got one question for ted. Why did you not cut justin harrel? I mean come on man.
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JamesW 41 minutes ago Report Abuse
The Pack better sign him cuz Barnett sucks a$$
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Slow Poke 48 minutes ago Report Abuse
How about a trade between the Bears and the Packers. Lovie for AJ.

[Al B. Sure!]

What is your opinion? That AJ Hawk should get paid $10 million next year instead of $30-35 million over 5 years? Apparently Ted Thompson and the Green Bay Packers organization don't think so and their opinion matters more than yours or some random fans.

Whatever, Sloww. Argue all you want.

[Al B. Sure!]

And Vick is worth at least THREE AJ Hawks. Are you serious, Sloww?

AJ Hawk was a consensus draft bust and buried on the GB depth chart (being used only situationally and on special teams) until Nick Barnett and Brandon Chillar got hurt thrusting Hawk into the starting lineup. Hawk is a middling LB at best and probably only had the relative success he had this season due to the rest of the pieces of that defense being around him. He is not a high first round talent by any stretch of the imagination.

[SlowwHand]

No, what I'm going to do is put you on Ignore. You're the S.O.B. that argues with every opinion that I express. I have news for you, cupcake. Just because you have a different opinion doesn't make you correct by default.

[Al B. Sure!]

No, what I'm going to do is put you on Ignore. You're the S.O.B. that argues with every opinion that I express. I have news for you, cupcake. Just because you have a different opinion doesn't make you correct by default.

1) most of the time that you think I'm 'arguing' with you, I'm not. That's in your head.
2) this is a forum. You get offended that I post opinions different than yours and back mine up with something and show why your opinion is wrong?

[Al B. Sure!]

Ernie Sims was taken a few picks after AJ Hawk in that draft class. Here's how they stack up after 5 full seasons (AJ Hawk having had the benefit of playing with better quality of players around him than Sims did on the Lions and last year with the Eagles D that was hardly great):

Hawk:
80 games, 363 tackles, 144 assists, 9 sacks, 8 INTs, 3 forced fumbles

Sims:
74 games, 330 tackles, 146 assists, 4.5 sacks, 1 INT, 5 forced fumbles

Sims was traded to the Eagles for a 5th round draft pick and is scheduled to make $900,000 this year. You seriously think that 4.5 more sacks and 7 interceptions over 5 WHOLE SEASONS!!!! warrants AJ Hawk to receive over 10x the compensation that Sims gets?!

For him to make $6-7 mil a year would be pretty solid for a player of Hawk's talent.

[flash9286]

For some reason I found this funny, Rich Eisen running the 40 versus prospects running the 40. Jump to 3:10 mark.

[OzzyKP]

I want to see the sportscasters race.

[Al B. Sure!]

Well he was in a suit and tie. I think he could have beat Isaiah Thompson if he was wearing athletic gear. Although that's not saying much