Worst Call in MLB History?

[ColdWizard]

Because this one case now would be retroactive.

[Guynemer]

But it wouldn't change anything other than getting AG the place in history he earned. The final score would still be 3-0. The only substantive difference would be that the "28th out" never happened. There's no practical reason not to overturn it.

[ColdWizard]

So only retroactively fix what's convenient?

[Ming]

But it wouldn't change anything other than getting AG the place in history he earned. The final score would still be 3-0. The only substantive difference would be that the "28th out" never happened. There's no practical reason not to overturn it.

I agree that there is "no practical reason"... but it's not in the rules of the game. I've seen so many more bad calls in baseball and other sports that actually had an impact on the game, and they weren't overruled.

I do see your point and as I said in my post, I have mixed emotions on this one. Following the rules, or righting a wrong... both have good arguments behind them. With that being the case, I would simply prefer they follow the rules, since that is the one constant.

[-Jrabbit]

Anything that changes (rules, replay usage) should ONLY be forward-going. Gallaraga is doomed to having the most famous unrecognized perfect game in history on his record.

Just as I grew up hearing the story of Harvey Haddix, future baseball historians will tell this tale for years to come. Which is as it should be.

[Berzerker]

That play is called an "out" by every ump in the world. He has no angle to judge any supposed juggle.

I played enough infield to see plenty of outs given to runners because of slight bobbles, and he had a great angle on it. The pitcher was facing 2B with his left arm extended out with the open part of the glove and ball facing to the right where the ump was standing - you can even see him react, first the runner was out, then something changed his mind. If I was the ump and I had that angle I would have hesitated calling the runner out until I got a better look at that snow cone. Like Ming said, the umps should have gotten together and this ump should have asked for the meeting.

Agreed. Berz is trying to rationalize what everyone (including the guy who made it) says is a really bad call.

I saw what I saw... And DanS saw it too... It was the wrong call, it wasn't a really bad call (ie w/o any cause and effect). And I've already heard a couple TV commentators mention what I said, so everyone doesn't think it was a really bad call. Did you even see the play from the proper angle (OF)? Did you see the ball hanging out on the end of his glove? Did you see him snag the ball after appearing to hold it a second with the end of the glove? That imo caused the ump to think he bobbled it. If the ball had disappeared into the guy's glove I think the ump would have called the runner out. And of course he's saying that, good for him. He did blow the call... I'd like to hear him explain why.

[SlowwHand]

Maybe he doesn't know why. Maybe he thought he was correct at the time of the call. Evidently he thought so.

[duke o' york]

Well MLB are incorrect at the time of the call, and ever since, for denying us the chance to see the clip.

[SlowwHand]

[-Jrabbit]

So if it was "juggled" and that was the reason for the call, that would be an E-1.
So even if you're right (which I do not concede), it's still a bad call.

[SlowwHand]

It was a bad call. There's no one in baseball calling it a correct call.

[DanS]

I saw what I saw... And DanS saw it too... It was the wrong call, it wasn't a really bad call (ie w/o any cause and effect).

It was a really bad call. Rather, I was just pointing out why the mistake might have been made. When making calls at first base, umpires use the sound of the ball hitting the glove to make their determination. In this case, he may never have heard the ball hitting the glove.

[Berzerker]

nm, arguing over bad and really bad is pointless

[DanS]

You're probably right.