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  • Originally posted by Zopperoni View Post
    Major breaking news out of Tampa: Jon Gruden and GM Bruce Allen have both been fired:

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    Buccaneers fire Super Bowl-winning head coach Gruden

    The Tampa Bay Buccaneers fired coach Jon Gruden on Friday, as was first reported by NFL Network's Adam Schefter.

    General manager Bruce Allen was also dismissed. After the team collapsed following a 9-3 start and failed to make the playoffs, the organization decided to go in a different direction.

    "We will be forever grateful to Jon for bringing us the Super Bowl title, and we thank Bruce for his contributions to our franchise," said Buccaneers co-chairman Joel Glazer. "However, after careful consideration, we feel that this decision is in the best interest of our organization moving forward."

    The Buccaneers were tied for first place in the NFC South heading into December, but finished with losses to Carolina and Atlanta on the road and San Diego and Oakland at home, where they had been 6-0. One more win would have landed a NFC wild-card berth.

    The 9-7 record this season left Tampa out of the playoffs for the fourth time in six years.

    Gruden went 60-57 in seven seasons as head coach of the Buccaneers, including the playoffs. He was the youngest coach to win a Super Bowl when he led Tampa Bay to a 48-21 win over the Oakland Raiders in Super Bowl XXXVII, his first season with the team.

    Gruden was Tampa Bay's coach for seven years before being dismissed. Allen was general manager for the last five seasons.

    Gruden's firing means that there will be 10 new head coaches next season, the most since the 2005-06 season.
    and a follow up:

    PITTSBURGH -- In a stunning development that no one in the NFL expected, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers fired Super Bowl-winning coach Jon Gruden late Friday afternoon. And in what could be even more of shock, the Bucs plan to replace Gruden with Raheem Morris, who has never been anything more than a position coach in any of his six seasons in the league, SI.com learned Friday night.

    Morris, whose ascension up the NFL ladder rivals another former secondary coach -- Pittburgh's Mike Tomlin, who has the Steelers one win away from the Super Bowl -- will probably be named the Bucs' new head coach Saturday, a source said.

    Morris, 32, who last month replaced Monte Kiffin as the Bucs' defensive coordinator, just finished his sixth season as a Tampa Bay assistant and second as defensive backs coach. He initially joined Gruden's staff as a defensive quality-control assistant in 2002, was a defensive assistant in 2003 and assistant defensive backs coach for the next two seasons before spending one year as defensive coordinator at Kansas State.

    As for Gruden, six seasons without a playoff win was his undoing. The Glazer family fired Gruden and general manager Bruce Allen -- who came to Tampa and delivered a Super Bowl title in their first season together -- for several reasons. But not winning a game in the postseason since the Bucs beat Oakland in Super Bowl XXVII in Gruden's rookie season was the biggest factor.

    "It's not just that," Buccaneers co-chairman Joel Glazer told SI.com. "But, ultimately, we're judged on wins and losses in this business. There are a lot of factors involved ... it's been under consideraion since the end of the season. We just felt that's where the franchise was headed. We wanted to make a change."

    The end of the season was particularly bitter for the Glazer family as well as Gruden. The Bucs seemed a playoff shoe-in after 12 games with a 9-3 record but lost their final four games, with their defense falling apart embarrassingly to finish 9-7 and out of the playoffs.

    It didn't help Gruden that, in the words of one NFL source Friday night, "He was Hillary Clinton there." In other words, he'd always have a solid core of support, but there would always be a large, polarized part of the public (and ownership, perhaps) who wouldn't be in his corner. And he'd never work to win over the media or the fans who didn't buy his workaholic, everyman schtick.

    Gruden's impenetrable veneer surely didn't help him with the Glazer family, either. He and Allen, one league rival said Friday night, ran the team like the Nixon White House, communicating poorly with the public and running the teams with an our-way-or-the-highway approach, even when the results of the team didn't merit regal treatment from the public or the media.

    In seven years, Gruden had a 60-57 record. A good record, including a Super Bowl victory. But was it worth two first-round picks and two second-round picks, the price the Bucs had to pay Oakland owner Al Davis for Gruden, particularly when the franchise hovered around .500 for the six seasons after the Super Bowl title?

    For Mike Shanahan, two straight Super Bowl wins bought him a decade of coaching the Broncos with another AFC or league title. For Gruden, one Super Bowl bought six years without another January success. What must have annoyed the ownership nearly as much was Gruden's inability to develop a quarterback of the future. He lurched from one short-term veteran (Brad Johnson) to another (Brian Griese) to another (Jeff Garcia) and then back to Griese and to Garcia without ever developing any long-term plan for the most important position in the game. Young projects Chris Simms and Bruce Gradkowski never got over the hump and were sent packing by Gruden.

    For a coach who arrived in Tampa as a quarterback guru, Gruden leaves a coach with slim pickings at the position. The Bucs, as has been the case almost every year since the Super Bowl win, enter the offseason in the market for a quarterback.

    Twelve of the NFL's 32 teams haven't won a playoff game in the last six years. The Bucs were one of those. League insiders thought the intensely private Glazers would give the Gruden-Allen team another year, but it didn't happen. And in the end, it's hard to blame them
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    • Morris?! Wow... I know Tomlin has worked out great for the Steelers, but... really?

      I don't think its that much of a shock that Gruden got canned. Ever since the Superbowl, he's been 45-51. Someone remarked it is similar to Brian Billick's mark after he won the Superbowl.

      I think Gruden may get snapped up by the Broncos. He'd probably love having Cutler and Marshall.
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      • Morris?! Wow... I know Tomlin has worked out great for the Steelers, but... really?

        I don't think its that much of a shock that Gruden got canned. Ever since the Superbowl, he's been 45-51. Someone remarked it is similar to Brian Billick's mark after he won the Superbowl.

        I think Gruden may get snapped up by the Broncos. He'd probably love having Cutler and Marshall.
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        • I've never liked Gruden. He seems to me like a badass wannabe that you couldn't do anything about, like some on the internet.
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          • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
            Morris?! Wow... I know Tomlin has worked out great for the Steelers, but... really?
            I feel the same way. Morris is a good coach, and he was ready to be the defensive coordinator... but I just don't know if he's ready to be the guy.

            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
            I don't think its that much of a shock that Gruden got canned. Ever since the Superbowl, he's been 45-51. Someone remarked it is similar to Brian Billick's mark after he won the Superbowl.
            If that was the reason, then the team should have let him go last year after we flamed out against the Giants rather than sign him to an extension. Gruden & Allen are being made the scapegoats for the December collapse, no question about it, and it's unfair because the people at fault for the collapse are the defensive players (the veterans in particular) and perhaps with Kiffin for the timing of the announcement of his departure (though I'm giving Kiffin a pass out of respect for all he's done for us in the last 13 years), not Gruden or Allen.

            I will admit, though, that firing Allen befuddles me more than firing Gruden. IMO at least, Allen was doing a great job. He got us out of cap hell quicker and more completely than we ever had a right to expect, and he was a good drafter with a eye for talent that significantly contributed as rookies (examples: Cadillac, Tanard Jackson, Aqib Talib, Jeremy Zuttah... pretty much the entire OL save for Jeff Faine for that matter, etc.). I'd really love to hear the Glazers explain the Allen firing specifically at some point.

            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
            I think Gruden may get snapped up by the Broncos. He'd probably love having Cutler and Marshall.
            Personnel-wise it'd be a good fit, but I don't think Gruden's West Coast scheme will jive with the Patriots-style offense that Josh McDaniels wants to run. I think Gruden ends up in one of two places: San Francisco, as Mike Singletary's offensive coordinator, or (more likely) New York, as head coach of the Jets.
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            • The Broncos have another WR that isn't shabby. Royal.
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              • No way Singletary hires Gruden. He wants to run his team his way, and that means definitely no Gruden.
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                • What I read says Jets are likely.
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                  • Without reading that article, i know that Gruden loves old veteran players over younger inexperienced ones. Whichever team wants that mindset will want Gruden

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                    • Cue ben "bolts" kenobi!!!!!

                      SAN DIEGO (AP) -- The San Diego Chargers appear to be bracing their fans for the possibility that LaDainian Tomlinson's brilliant eight-year run with the team could be over.

                      According to the team's Web site, club president Dean Spanos called the star running back Thursday to discuss reports that the Chargers might part with Tomlinson, who has been slowed by injuries the last two postseasons and will count $8.8 million against the salary cap next year.
                      TROTTER: LT: Trading me would be 'ridiculous'

                      "We talked about the situation and I just tried to explain everything that must be considered," Spanos said in a story detailing the offseason decisions the team must make. "I told him we haven't even started our discussions and won't for a while, so don't jump to any conclusions. And I told him I would call him personally to make sure he's aware of everything that's going on."

                      Tomlinson, the NFL MVP in 2006, missed the Chargers' playoff loss at Pittsburgh on Sunday with a groin injury. That, coupled with the lowest rushing total of his career, has led to speculation that the team might try to trade or even release L.T.

                      Tomlinson, who turns 30 in June, is under contract through 2011. Slowed by toe and groin injuries, Tomlinson gained a career-low 1,110 yards in 2008. Two seasons earlier, he set NFL records with 31 touchdowns -- including 28 rushing -- and 186 points.

                      The team declined to make Spanos available for further comment. Tomlinson didn't immediately respond to an e-mail seeking comment.

                      Six years ago, the Chargers were criticized for the way they got rid of star linebacker Junior Seau. Feeling Seau's play was in decline, the Chargers told him he was free to pursue a trade.

                      During a farewell news conference at the restaurant he owns, Seau said he had lobbied the team to release him so he could seek a free-agent deal. Describing himself as fired, unemployed and humbled, the 12-time Pro Bowler Seau was then traded to the Miami Dolphins.

                      In another unpopular move, the Chargers cut hard-hitting safety Rodney Harrison after the 2002 season because he'd been slowed by an ankle injury. The Patriots signed Harrison as a free agent and he ended up winning two Super Bowls with them.

                      Tomlinson hurt his groin in the regular-season finale against Denver on Dec. 28. He started the wild-card playoff game against Indianapolis but came out after scoring a touchdown early in the second quarter. The Chargers went on to beat the Colts 23-17 in overtime, carried by Darren Sproles' 328 all-purpose yards and two touchdowns, including the game-winner.

                      Tomlinson didn't suit up against Pittsburgh, which beat the Chargers 35-24. The Steelers held Sproles, who'll become an unrestricted free agent, to 15 yards on 11 carries.

                      After the Broncos game, the Chargers announced that Tomlinson had a strained groin. Reports surfaced the day of the playoff game against the Colts that Tomlinson had a detached tendon that connects one of his groin muscles to his pubic bone.

                      Four days later, Tomlinson -- long the franchise's most brutally honest employee -- confirmed that he had a detached tendon and practically scoffed at the team's public diagnosis.

                      "If it was a strain I'd be able to play with it, trust me," Tomlinson said. "A lot of guys have strains."

                      General manager A.J. Smith was livid that the severity of Tomlinson's injury was revealed and called out the player's camp.

                      A year ago, Tomlinson missed most of the AFC championship game at New England with a sprained ligament in his left knee. He stood glumly on the sidelines huddled in a parka, wearing his helmet with a tinted visor. Some people criticized Tomlinson's toughness, but the Chargers themselves had provided an overly optimistic update on his injury, announcing in the press box early in the second quarter that Tomlinson had a "sore knee" and that he "can return."

                      Perhaps wanting to keep up some gamesmanship, the Chargers never updated that report even though Tomlinson and coach Norv Turner later said they knew by early in the second quarter that the running back wouldn't return.

                      "It's obvious that I couldn't play," Tomlinson said afterward. "If I could have played, I would have been in there."

                      Tomlinson's agent, Tom Condon, has declined comment.

                      Condon clients have been at odds with Smith in the past, notably Marty Schottenheimer, Donnie Edwards and Eli Manning.

                      Schottenheimer was fired as San Diego's coach in February 2007 because of what Spanos called a "dysfunctional situation" with Smith. Edwards, who led the Chargers in tackles for five straight seasons, fell into disfavor with Smith, apparently for asking one time too many for a contract extension, and was allowed to leave as an unrestricted free agent following the 2006 season.

                      Three days before the 2004 draft, Smith revealed that Archie Manning, through Condon, didn't want his son, Eli, to be taken by the Chargers with the No. 1 pick overall.

                      Smith picked Manning anyway, then dealt him to the New York Giants for Philip Rivers and a haul of picks that he used to select kicker Nate Kaeding in that draft and star outside linebacker Shawne Merriman in the first round of the 2005 draft.

                      Eli Manning was MVP of the Giants' Super Bowl upset of New England last year.

                      After the 2005 season, Smith chose to keep Rivers over Drew Brees, another Condon client.




                      Well, well,well.......
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                      • Julius Peppers wants out. After declining to say since training camp whether he wants to remain with the Carolina Peppers, the Pro Bowl defensive end announced late Friday night through his agent that he wants a change of scenery. "The front office has been informed of my desire to explore opportunities with other NFL teams following the expiration of my contract next month," Peppers said in a statement released to ESPN through his agent, Carl Carey. "At this point in my career, I am seeking new challenges that will allow me to grow, develop and reach my personal potential on the football field. "I strongly feel that making a move at this time is in my best interest. I appreciate the entire Panthers organization and am thankful for the seven seasons I've spent with the team."
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                        • Wow, that would make him the most coveted free agent right now!

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                          • Originally posted by snoopy369 View Post
                            No way Singletary hires Gruden. He wants to run his team his way, and that means definitely no Gruden.
                            I agree. Scott Linehan has been offered the position, and Singletary is waiting for an answer.
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                            • And it appears the Rams have won the Spagnuolo contest:

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                              Nice hire for St. Louis.
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                              • Yeah, and probably the right place to go once Denver was out of the picture... a team with some quality players to build around that could be good in a few years instead of a decade (see: Lions).
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