Fantasy Hockey - Running Out of Title Ideas

[notyoueither]

Lots of good players aren't in those games. Your point?

[notyoueither]

Oh, and look at that. I thought Smid was 'medicore at best.'

I suppose your views on players are not widely shared. Sort of like your early pronouncements on Kipper vs Brodeur. Knowledge and wisdom, or lack thereof, show through.

[notyoueither]

As an aid for memory.

Originally posted by Asher


I guess you and I are looking at different criteria. I really do not care what goaltenders have accomplished in the past, I care about what they can do today (thus the "today's" qualifier). That's why Huet ranks so high.

I'm mostly looking at this season's performance. I value very highly consistency and how many games they can play reliably.

Brodeur is 6th in GAA and 7th in sv%. If you look at his game log, he's had a lot of off nights compared to the guys I put in #1 and #2 on the chart: 10 games with below 90% svp so far.

Kiprusoff has 6, and 4 of those were within the first 6 games of the season. Ever since then he's been rock solid.

And that, my friend, is why Kiprusoff is the #1 goaltender today in the NHL hockey league.

You'd be better off if you stopped looking at history as a critically important part of today's players. It doesn't matter what they did years ago, it matters what they're doing now.

              GP  W  L OT  GAA  Sv% SO
BRODEUR   NJD 43 27 13  3 2.04 .928  7
LUONGO    VAN 43 25 16  1 2.47 .914  2
GIGUERE   ANA 34 23  4  5 2.17 .924  4
HASEK     DET 34 23  7  3 2.03 .911  5
MILLER    BUF 33 22  8  2 2.63 .915  1
KIPRUSOFF CGY 39 22 14  3 2.28 .921  5

Where is that '#1 goaltender today in the NHL hockey league'?

More like 'what is that stat or topic that can be used to troll today?'

[Asher]

I'm not sure that troll is even worthy of response, it was so desperate.

[Ninot]

Habs will win tonight, I know it!

[Asher]

I'm not sure if the Flames will. Road games suck, missing Iggy sucks, and Nashville certainly does not suck.

[Ninot]

Vokoun is a really good cook.

Ok Goalie, fantastic cook.

[Asher]

From TSN.ca

"Leafs goalie Andrew Raycroft was booed off the ice Saturday in the 6-1 disaster against Vancouver. Meanwhile, Leafs castoff Mikael Tellqvist sparked Phoenix to seven straight wins. Plus, the Buds gave up super goalie prospect Tuukka Rask to get Raycroft. Tick, tick, tick for GM John Ferguson Jr. . . .'

[Flubber]

Oh and where do things stand today

Phoenix -- 9 points out and even 4 and 5 points back of the Avs and Oil-- AS I said all along, they COULD do it, I just don't think they will. 9 points is a long way to go

The OIlers-- I know they have defensive woes but when will their vaunted offence start scoring? They need to start winning NOW since I'm uncertain whether any of Van, Calg or Minn are going to go on a big losing tear

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Asher
I'm not sure if the Flames will. Road games suck, missing Iggy sucks, and Nashville certainly does not suck.

Well- The Flames have been better on the road lately and they have done well without Iggy. But Nashville?? The Flames never seemed to beat Nashville even when Nashville used to be bad. Now that they are good it will be even tougher.

Oh and I hate the name of the Nashville area.

"The Gaylord Centre"

[Asher]

Originally posted by notyoueither
As an aid for memory.

              GP  W  L OT  GAA  Sv% SO
BRODEUR   NJD 43 27 13  3 2.04 .928  7
LUONGO    VAN 43 25 16  1 2.47 .914  2
GIGUERE   ANA 34 23  4  5 2.17 .924  4
HASEK     DET 34 23  7  3 2.03 .911  5
MILLER    BUF 33 22  8  2 2.63 .915  1
KIPRUSOFF CGY 39 22 14  3 2.28 .921  5

Where is that '#1 goaltender today in the NHL hockey league'?

More like 'what is that stat or topic that can be used to troll today?'

BTW, you couldn't have trolled with this at a worse time.

NEW YORK -- Ottawa Senators right wing Daniel Alfredsson, Calgary Flames goaltender Miikka Kiprusoff and Florida Panthers center Olli Jokinen have been named the NHL's 'Three Stars' for the week ending January 14.

Kiprusoff backstopped the Flames to three victories, posting a 1.33 goals-against average and .949 save percentage. He made 26 saves in recording his fifth shutout of the season as Calgary defeated the Minnesota Wild 3-0 on Jan. 9. He made 27 saves in a 7-3 Flames win over the Colorado Avalanche, Jan. 11 and finished the week by making 21 saves in a 3-1 win over the Edmonton Oilers, Jan. 13. Kiprusoff has posted four consecutive
victories, improving his season record to 22-14-3 with a 2.28 goals-against average and a .921 save percentage. The Flames lead the Northwest Division with 52 points (24-15-4).

Nice work.

[Asher]

The other thing to keep in mind when looking at these stats is Brodeur plays behind the least penalized team in the league and infront of one of the best PKs in the league.

If you look at, say, Kiprusoff...he hasn't let in an EV goal in 5 games now or so. And he can't be faulted for the vast majority of the PPG, which have come as a result of awful special teams play of the defense infront of him. Take Edmonton's PPG on Saturday, for instance.

Kiprusoff has seen 296 shots against on the powerplay, permitting 41 (86.1% svp). Brodeur's seen 219, permitting all of 15 (93% svp).

At Even Strength, Kiprusoff is at a league-leading 94.4% svp w/ 44 GA and Brodeur is at 93% svp (67 GA).

If and when the Flames pick up their PK play, Kipper's stats will show him to be clear and away the #1 goaltender he is in today's NHL.

[Flubber]

OH and Asher . ..


You were slagging Rich Preston for the Flames special teams woes. I saw a Herald artcile that referred to Wayne Fleming as the coach for the PK, not Preston. I wonder if the article was incorrect or if they are giving a different coach a chance to turn the PK around?

The Flames PK does look awful. The team would be very impressive if and when they tighten this up

[Asher]

Last year it was Preston and I was unaware it changed.

Either way, that coach needs to look for a new job.

[Flubber]

Oh and can you believe it but there are some muted or tongue-in-cheek comments to "trade Jerome".

The Herald did do an article about how well everyone is playing without him. But IMHO if the Flames want to be a very good team they need Iggy and the rest ALL playing well together.

The only comment I would make is that the coaches should think about not throwing Iggy out there for 28 minutes on nights when he is not going well. Others can step up so it needn't always be Iggy that they use when the chips are down. He should be the go-to guy, but he doesn't need to be the ONLY one