Rank Today's Hockey Goaltenders, Top 5

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Asher
James Mirtle's take on it here: http://mirtle.blogspot.com/2006/07/u...ofts-deal.html

The guy is not a respected hockey writer. He's just a blogger who from the sounds of it is nothing more than an editorial assistant at the Globe, a job typically done by kids fresh out of J-school.

The guy is arguing that the Leafs should have gone with Ed Belfour, Mike Dunham, Brian Boucher or Martin Prusek. That type of thinking undermines his credibility.

Originally posted by Asher
His name is Rask, not Rusk.

What? Have you've become a spelling nazi now too?

Originally posted by Asher

Legace had a .915 save percentage and a 37-8-3 record last season. Raycroft was the NHL's worst starting goaltender. Yeah, best deal available...

Legace has always been a backup goalie, not the number one goalie. There were a lot of doubts about whether he could handle the workload of being a #1 goalie.

Originally posted by Asher
I don't see you making excuses for Kiprusoff when during his "slump" 3 of the 6 d-men infront of him were from the AHL.

Right, this from a guy who was ranting about the Leaf's dmen when the blueline corp was cut by injuries and minor leaguers were filling in. So with the Leafs, you ignore the injuries, but with your Flames...

What a typical homer.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Tingkai
The guy is not a respected hockey writer. He's just a blogger who from the sounds of it is nothing more than an editorial assistant at the Globe, a job typically done by kids fresh out of J-school.

So a hockey columnist who has written for The Hockey News, The Globe and Mail, The National Post, and other magazines (as well as an award-winning hockey blog) is not a respected hockey writer?

You're hilarious...

What? Have you've become a spelling nazi now too?

To me your constant inability to spell "new" goaltenders names lends credibility to the theory that you don't pay much attention to today's NHL. Particularly very simple names like "Rask".

Right, this from a guy who was ranting about the Leaf's dmen when the blueline corp was cut by injuries and minor leaguers were filling in. So with the Leafs, you ignore the injuries, but with your Flames...

What a typical homer.

Err...actually I was saying lots of your minor leaguers were better than your "NHL" d-men.

The Leafs and Edmonton are both in a lot of trouble defensively, the difference is Edmonton's defense is cheap and Toronto's is the most expensive(?) in the NHL. The fact that you sometimes have injuries doesn't matter, even when your lineup is full of NHLers it doesn't change anything -- thus my rant.

[Asher]

Regarding Brodeur vs Kiprusoff...another thing came to mind last night when Kiprusoff was only scored on via a PP and a 5-3.

The Devils are the least penalized team in the league, meaning Brodeur has to see very little powerplays compared to other goaltenders. Don't you think it's reasonable this helps him a bit in the stat department?

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Asher
So a hockey columnist who has written for The Hockey News, The Globe and Mail, The National Post, and other magazines (as well as an award-winning hockey blog) is not a respected hockey writer?

He's not a hockey columnist, he's a "desk staffer" which probably means he sits a computer and puts the agate pages together, something anyone could do. If he was a columnist, reporter or editor then he would say so.

I've written about a lot of topics for a lot of newspapers. That doesn't make me an expert about every story I've written.

Put it this way, you have more cred than he does. Anyone who suggests that the Leafs shoudl have picked up Mike Dunham, Brian Boucher and Martin Prusek as a starting goalie is a fool.

Originally posted by Asher
To me your constant inability to spell "new" goaltenders names

One spelling error = constant inability? Man, you've really run out of arguments if you have to resort to this kind of troll. :LOL:

[Asher]

Originally posted by Tingkai
He's not a hockey columnist, he's a "desk staffer" which probably means he sits a computer and puts the agate pages together, something anyone could do. If he was a columnist, reporter or editor then he would say so.

Again...he's written for many reputable hockey magazines and he has one of the most popular hockey blogs around. You may downplay the importance of people like him, but he gets read more regularly than similar bufoons like Mike Brophy (who is a certifiably douche, despite having lots of oldschool journalistic "cred").

This is a very pathetic way to dismiss a sound argument, by the way...you seem to think that everyone in the world thought the Raycroft deal was good, while it VERY MUCH was not.

One spelling error = constant inability? Man, you've really run out of arguments if you have to resort to this kind of troll. :LOL:

No, you constantly called Kiprusoff "Kippersof" until recently, when you decided to downplay this as a pun with "Kippersoft". I think it's very obvious given your locale that you are not up to speed on the latest in the NHL as someone who lives and breathes this stuff in a hockey culture, including someone who can see every single NHL game on television each night.

[notyoueither]

Kippersoft

Can't you recognise a dig?

[Tingkai]

Asher: I can't believe you're parroting your puck bunny's yapping. Repeating Drake's troll doesn't make you look good.

I expect better from you.

[Drake Tungsten]

Asher and I aren't trolls; we didn't even make the list. You and NYE, OTOH...

[Tingkai]

Of course you're not a troll. You're just a puck bunny.

[Asher]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Kippersoft

Can't you recognise a dig?

Read more carefully.

He originally called him Kippersof (sans t). I had pointed out his chronic "typo" a long time ago. Now he adds the "t" and it becomes a "dig".

Tingkai has never thought highly of Kiprusoff -- during his playoff performance or Vezina year he never respected the guy as the league's dominant goaltender.

Tingkai's a leafs homer living in Hong Kong that likely hasn't seen a Western conference game in years. His opinion is even less valuable than a certain person who compares Ales Hemsky with Tanguay.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Asher

Read more carefully.

He originally called him Kippersof (sans t). I had pointed out his chronic "typo" a long time ago. Now he adds the "t" and it becomes a "dig".

Tingkai has never thought highly of Kiprusoff -- during his playoff performance or Vezina year he never respected the guy as the league's dominant goaltender.

Tingkai's a leafs homer living in Hong Kong that likely hasn't seen a Western conference game in years. His opinion is even less valuable than a certain person who compares Ales Hemsky with Tanguay.

All I ever saw was the 'soft' varient.

And you're right. Anyone who thinks Tanguay compares to Hemsky must have a few loose connections.

[Asher]

Originally posted by notyoueither
All I ever saw was the 'soft' varient.

And you're right. Anyone who thinks Tanguay compares to Hemsky must have a few loose connections.

Tanguay: 9G 24A 33P, +9
Hemsky: 5G 19A 24P, -4

Indeed.

[Tingkai]

The dominant goalie in the league is Brodeur. Tops in shutouts, number 2 on GAA, shots against and wins, and third on Sv%. And he has three cup rings and Olympic gold.

As for Kippersoft, that's what I call him and I was calling him that when Asher was crying about my "spelling mistake" because he didn't get the jibe.

And yes, I watch Western Canadian team cause that's what the bar (the Keg in Lan Kwai Fong) usually plays.

More importantly, when I watch a game, I understand what is happening.

Remember Asher, how you blamed Tanquay for Sundin's 500th goal? You said Tanquay was on the point when he wasn't and that he was slow skating backwards, when it was Phaneuf who tripped up.

[Asher]

Remember Asher, how you blamed Tanquay for Sundin's 500th goal? You said Tanquay was on the point when he wasn't and that he was slow skating backwards, when it was Phaneuf who tripped up.

You still have reading comprehension problems. I was blaming Playfair in general, such as stating Tanguay on the point as being a dumb move. If you watch the video, he did start on the point, and in a few of the early games his inability to skate backwards cost us some goals. I'm sure you saw all those, too.

The dominant goalie in the league is Brodeur. Tops in shutouts, number 2 on GAA, shots against and wins, and third on Sv%. And he has three cup rings and Olympic gold.

Was Brodeur the dominant goaltender last season?

[Tingkai]

You do know the point is where the blue line meets the boards?

In the Sundin play, Phaneuf was at the point, tries passes ahead to Tanguay (up along the boards, not anywhere near the point). Sundin intercepts, races past Phaneuf (who trips over himself), fires a shot from the Flames blue line that handcuffs Kippersoft for a short-handed, game-winning goal in overtime.

The blame cannot be put on Playfair or Tanguay.