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  • Anderlecht is in desperate need of a new (and larger) Stadium though, with a capacity of up to 40,000. Club Brugge is feeling similarly constrained by its current stadium.
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    • Yeh. In some ways it's a big contrast because the sport is healthy and stable in Belgium. The MLS is quickly moving to smaller stadiums to match the crowds coming out. Often, beautiful, enormous, new stadiums in the same cities are being left unused by soccer.

      How expensive are tickets to club matches?
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      • Hmmm "healthy " probably wouldn't have been an apt description in previous years, particularly amongst smaller teams. Maybe it's reasonable healthy now though, now that the financially weaker teams have been weeded out or been forced to clean up their act. The total budget of all first division teams rose by 17% to €150 million this year, so it's probably on the right track.
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        • I put the total MLS budget for next year at roughly $65 million. 13 teams. Doesn't include capital expenditures for the new stadiums being built for Toronto FC and Red Bull New York.
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          • €15-25 would be mid-range I think, but it can go lower or higher depending on the team, the game, the kind of location etc

            Originally posted by DanS
            I put the total MLS budget for next year at roughly $65 million. 13 teams. Doesn't include capital expenditures for the new stadiums being built for Toronto FC and Red Bull New York.
            $5 million a team would be comparable to a smallish to medium first division team.

            Are those new stadiums built with private funding?
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            • Toronto FC's stadium is a public/private split. The public part is funded by the Canadian national gov't and the stadium will be the national soccer stadium for Canada. Capacity 20,000.

              Red Bull New York's is privately funded by Red Bull and Anschutz Entertainment Group, except that some of the bonds are subsidized redevelopment bonds and there are some other incentives. Capacity 25,000.

              Often, even if the stadium is privately funded, the local gov'ts will pay for infrastructure upgrades.

              There are several other stadiums on the drawing board, so a lot of money is soft-committed. The owner of Salt Lake City wants a new stadium publicly funded. The owner of D.C. United, Anschutz Entertainment Group, will probably do privately funded, except that the land and infrastructure to be provided by the city are priceless.
              Last edited by DanS; August 8, 2006, 11:45.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • hehe, just before the game I had a phone call with my dad where I said that I will switch off the tv after 10 minutes this time.

                again 2-0 against sweden, but after 8 min this time

                same procedure?
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                • If we could actually score goals in the first ten minutes, instead of letting them in, I'd invite you to all Newcastle's games siron.

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                  • Looks like Liverpool have beaten Newcastle to Kuyt. Lets hope he lives up to his billing....

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                    • Yes, to the tune of £10m.

                      That's a lot of cash to spend on strikers in the past two seasons (although coming from a Newcastle fan, this is decidedly ironic, especially since we bought a left-winger and expected him to play up front. Not every left-winger is a Henry in the waiting... ). Keep up the good work!

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                      • Originally posted by reds4ever
                        Looks like Liverpool have beaten Newcastle to Kuyt. Lets hope he lives up to his billing....
                        Only one word here... ****!! Best player we have goes abroad

                        And it's Kuijt btw!
                        Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
                        And notifying the next of kin
                        Once again...

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                        • What about the that young lad from Ajax?

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                          • I don't mind one bit, with Kuijt and Kalou gone I can finally go back to hating Feyenoord and everyone remotely associated with them

                            Huntelaar is hot right now (and that's a severe understatement) but it's a bit early to tell how well he'll do in the long run. It's inevitable he'll suffer an injury or lose form at some point, it'll be important to see how he recovers from that kind of setback. Kuijt was two years ago where Huntelaar is now. His development leveled off a bit in my view, but he's still a brilliant player with IMO the potential of becoming England's next Van Nistelrooij.
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                            • Feyenoord and everyone remotely associated with them

                              That would be me
                              Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
                              And notifying the next of kin
                              Once again...

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                              • Originally posted by Locutus
                                I don't mind one bit, I can finally go back to hating Feyenoord and everyone remotely associated with them



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