A gas station

[BeBMan]

Also, in other missile news South Korea has a new conventional bunker-buster type missile now. This seems smart cuz:

1. It isn't going to kill similar huge numbers of folks and devastate large areas, compared to a nuke
2. But it may hit leadership/command bunkers of leaders who do not care about their pop, but may be less relaxed when it comes to their own survival
3. Plus it has a funny name

[The Mad Monk]

Ever heard of our hypersonic missiles for instance?

We use them every night against your proxy.

To what effect? The lines have been essentially the same for over a year. Your vaunted missles have done nothing but kill children.

[Elok]

Also on reflection I think we could probably get effective detection against this new Russian menace for substantially less than trillions of dollars. Specifically, we could start a tag or channel across various social media--YouTube, Twitter, TikTok, etc.--and call it #DirtyRussianBirds, assuming that hasn't been taken by some kind of fetish fandom. The thing we are looking to detect is thirty feet long and traveling at airliner cruising speeds about two hundred feet above the ground, where air is fairly dense. It is going to be incredibly noisy and visible, and almost everyone in America routinely carries a compact device with an internet connection and video camera. Most of America is populated by at least a few people per square mile, generally more. Within half an hour of Ivan's Sky Cow crossing the border, you will see tons of videos flooding #DirtyRussianBirds, enough to give us an idea where to scramble fighters to shoot it down. The actual interception will be child's play at that speed, the only complication being bringing it down somewhere it won't contaminate a major population center.

Estimated expense of maintaining public awareness campaign and hiring a redundant crew of dudes to monitor the various tags and channels: maybe a couple of million a year.

(the low speed is not just my friend's educated guess; per https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qp8ed877jo the Russian government cites a 8,700-mile test flight taking fifteen hours, which works out to 580 mph on average; this thing is slow as hell)

[Dauphin]

It cruises at 200ft above the ground? Just build some windmills. They're about 300ft tall and move at about 100mph at the tips. As publicised by Trump can knock fat birds out the sky.

[BeBMan]

The Dutch have experience with this particular kind of missile/bird defense since the middle ages

[Elok]

https://www.livescience.com/technology/engineering/nasas-new-ultraquiet-supersonic-flying-swordfish-plane-makes-history-with-first-test-flight

Meanwhile, some random clickbait I stumbled across says we're working on making commercial aircraft much faster without creating a sonic boom. While this does mean a bunch of middling-rich travelers of the future could patriotically kamikaze this Russian superweapon--quite easily, given relative speeds--I like that we are doing some research that will make lives better.

[The Mad Monk]

I heard a brief mention of it on the radio a couple weeks ago.

[BeBMan]

That's what they get for not making a sonic boom

[Serb]

Okey-dokey, I talked with my aerospace engineer friend, and a detail Serb has omitted is that this thing is fairly slow; in addition to irradiating everything it flies over, friend doubts it would go much faster than a passenger jet--possibly significantly slower--and would suffer from poor climb performance limiting routes. Detection might be something of a difficulty, but scrambling AWACS is an option and we're talking about something that spends a LONG time in the air. Very low in the air. Personally, I like to think what you're concerned about here is not radar so much as Farmer Brown calling the authorities about this outlandish contrivance that just came whooshing along and scared the bejeezus out of his cows. There are a lot of Farmers Brown between Mexico and DC. That's just my speculation, mind you, not speaking for my friend. It's funny to imagine, though it sucks for Farmer Brown since now he has cancer.

What does your friend tell you about an American-made nuclear-powered submarines and nuclear powered aircraft carriers?

Do they irradiate everything too?

(idiots!!!)

Perhaps the problem of both of you is that you are too dumb to understand one could miniaturize a nuclear engine so much to place it into a missile or a torpedoe?

You, Americans (not to mention your Euro-lackeys) are just too dumb to do so.

We are not.

Meanwhile, we have patented an anti-gravitation system for our space station we gonna launch into the orbit in 2027.

As for the speed of our cruise missile with a nuclear propulsion, than it is demonstrated a speed from 900 to 1300 kmph during its test when it flew over 14 000 (fourteen thousand kilometers).

The tomahawk missile has a range of 2500 kilometers and a top speed of 880 kmph.

It is 880 versus 1300!

Turn on your non-existing brain and give a kick to the ass to your "rocket scientist"!

As, for AWACS, - that is exactly what I was talking about!

Burevestnik missile flights at 25-100 meters high. That means it flights right over a surface.
And if you have ever studied physics you should known that EVERY ground based radar can't see further then 32 kilometers because the Earth is a ball and radar is linear, while the Earth has a curve.
So, to detect cruise missiles you should either place ground radars every 32 km of your border and a Patriot battaries nearby or to use AWACS (which flies at 10 000 high and have a detection range of 500 km at best and you have only 31 pieces of them for the entire World) and then to use your fighters to intercept a missile (which is very doubtful, since it is stealthy).

In any case, the enough quantity of ground radars and SAMs would worth a TRILLONS OF DOLLARS (which you don't have, because you are a pathetic bunkrupt!!!).

And exploitation of AWACS and F-35 would WORTH EVEN MORE!
One hour of AWACS fligh worth 40 000 dollars, one hour of flight of F-36 worth 35 000 dollars (multiply it on two). Then multiply it on hundreds of AWACS and hundreds of F-35, then multiply it on 24/7/365!

24*(40 000+35 000) = 1 800 000 million a day for a just one pair of AWACS and F-35.
Now multiply it to 365 days and you will get a 657 millions A YEAR!
For just a PAIR.
Now divide the length of American borderline to the coverage of AWACS radar and amount of F-35 needed to be placed to a nearby airfileds to have a chance to intercvpt a nuclear powered cruise missile and you would get TRILLIONS a year!


Good luck with your golden condome!

You are a technological loosers!

We are light years ahead of you.

[Serb]

And 500km is a top range for AWACS to detect a larger targets like aircrafts. It would be very lucky to detect a crusie missile at range of 250km.

[Serb]

That means trillions and trillions of dollars every year to protect all of your border with a doubuis chance of success - a kind of expense you never had before.

Good freaking luck!!!

[Serb]

lol LOL

What is so funny, you backward clown?

[Serb]

To what effect? The lines have been essentially the same for over a year. Your vaunted missles have done nothing but kill children.

We don't kill children, unlike you nazi proxy who intentionalyy attacks civilian objects.
To what effect?

The use of hypersonic Oreshnik lead to extermination of five-floor deep bunker to the ground Youzhmash soviet plant built of concrete and steel, which was constructed to withstand a direct nuclear hit.

The use of hypersonic Kinzhal has leaded to destruction of Ukranian energetics and them having electricity 24 hours... a week!
That is the effect!
The effect is that now and YOU are begging for a ceasefire!
That is the effect, dummy!

[Serb]

To what effect? The lines have been essentially the same for over a year. Your vaunted missles have done nothing but kill children.

If you (the US of A or Europe) ever tasted the effect of over 800 drones and missiles with a payload of explosives varying from 50 to 500 killograms EVERY NIGHT, you would surely knew the "effect".
But Ukrainians are just a traitorous and corrupted Russians who had forget their own history. They are indoctrinated by Nazi sh!t, but still - Russians, who are the most stubborn and best fighters in the World.

If you were in their place you would have surrendered a long time ago, because unlike them, you can't fight without pumpers and Coca-Cola.

[Serb]

Also on reflection I think we could probably get effective detection against this new Russian menace for substantially less than trillions of dollars. Specifically, we could start a tag or channel across various social media--YouTube, Twitter, TikTok, etc.--and call it #DirtyRussianBirds, assuming that hasn't been taken by some kind of fetish fandom. The thing we are looking to detect is thirty feet long and traveling at airliner cruising speeds about two hundred feet above the ground, where air is fairly dense. It is going to be incredibly noisy and visible, and almost everyone in America routinely carries a compact device with an internet connection and video camera. Most of America is populated by at least a few people per square mile, generally more. Within half an hour of Ivan's Sky Cow crossing the border, you will see tons of videos flooding #DirtyRussianBirds, enough to give us an idea where to scramble fighters to shoot it down. The actual interception will be child's play at that speed, the only complication being bringing it down somewhere it won't contaminate a major population center.

Estimated expense of maintaining public awareness campaign and hiring a redundant crew of dudes to monitor the various tags and channels: maybe a couple of million a year.

(the low speed is not just my friend's educated guess; per https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qp8ed877jo the Russian government cites a 8,700-mile test flight taking fifteen hours, which works out to 580 mph on average; this thing is slow as hell)

I am sorry, I was unable to read this mindfart of yours to the end.