One nazi less?

[Elok]

It's useless anyway! Almost all of that checklist could be fairly interpreted to describe George W. Bush who, for all his faults, left office voluntarily after eight years. If you're looking for a tool to say, "should this party or faction be regarded as dangerous," evaluating whether it is specifically fascist is not the useful question in the first place; you should be evaluating whether it is authoritarian. If it's actually communist or some generic strongman dictatorship of some sort, that doesn't really matter so much from the perspective of the governed, except insofar as a different set of people might be getting liquidated. Questions to actually ask: does it have a bunch of paramilitary groups attached to it? Do its members seem deeply hostile to civil liberties? Does it have a history of ignoring democratic norms? Does it try to physically threaten and intimidate (or actually assault) critics and opponents? Etc.

(Yes, a lot of these do apply to MAGA, and MAGA is in fact bad news, even if Trump himself is useless)

[Provost Harrison]

It's useless anyway! Almost all of that checklist could be fairly interpreted to describe George W. Bush who, for all his faults, left office voluntarily after eight years. If you're looking for a tool to say, "should this party or faction be regarded as dangerous," evaluating whether it is specifically fascist is not the useful question in the first place; you should be evaluating whether it is authoritarian. If it's actually communist or some generic strongman dictatorship of some sort, that doesn't really matter so much from the perspective of the governed, except insofar as a different set of people might be getting liquidated. Questions to actually ask: does it have a bunch of paramilitary groups attached to it? Do its members seem deeply hostile to civil liberties? Does it have a history of ignoring democratic norms? Does it try to physically threaten and intimidate (or actually assault) critics and opponents? Etc.

(Yes, a lot of these do apply to MAGA, and MAGA is in fact bad news, even if Trump himself is useless)

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." — George Orwell

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[Lorizael]

It's useless anyway! Almost all of that checklist could be fairly interpreted to describe George W. Bush who, for all his faults, left office voluntarily after eight years. If you're looking for a tool to say, "should this party or faction be regarded as dangerous," evaluating whether it is specifically fascist is not the useful question in the first place; you should be evaluating whether it is authoritarian. If it's actually communist or some generic strongman dictatorship of some sort, that doesn't really matter so much from the perspective of the governed, except insofar as a different set of people might be getting liquidated. Questions to actually ask: does it have a bunch of paramilitary groups attached to it? Do its members seem deeply hostile to civil liberties? Does it have a history of ignoring democratic norms? Does it try to physically threaten and intimidate (or actually assault) critics and opponents? Etc.

(Yes, a lot of these do apply to MAGA, and MAGA is in fact bad news, even if Trump himself is useless)

Nobody I know who doesn't think MAGA is a fascist movement thinks MAGA is as dangerous as people who think MAGA is a fascist movement do.