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Originally posted by Ming
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Epps is suing Fox, claiming that he is too a proper magat, and that all the vile slander spread about him being an FBI plant is just slander and has hurt him.Indifference is Bliss -
oh yeah, slander lol...
"We need to go INTO the capital"
"Leave that behind when we go in or the cops might shoot you"
"I orchestrated it (the riot)"
The only "insurrectionist" Democrats have embraced
He couldn't win that suit even if he wasn't a plant
So MAGA insurrectionists > FBI plants on the insult meter. Which ones do the Democrats and media love?
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You keep saying that the Democrats embrace Epps. Can you provide any evidence of this?
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Can you provide a link to those quotes?
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Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
Even if he wasn't a plant
Again, there is NO EVIDENCE that he was a plant. FACT.
And that's why he has a suit against those that labeled him as such.
Let us know when you have any real evidence he was a plant instead of just giving an opinion or theory.
And like JM asks, please provide evidence that the "Democrats" are defending him or have embraced him.
I sure has heck haven't seen Biden, or any of the leading/big hitter Democrats supporting him.
Keep on Civin'
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This is all based on whether you believe the storming was illegal or not.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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I'm confused, are you saying that someone who went there to stop congress from certifying the election (or whatever those ****ers wanted) would NOT say any of this? Why?Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
You're not making much sense. I don't think Epps considers being called a trump supporter an insult, since he seems to be a trump supporter.Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
OTOH, he does seem to consider being called an FBI plant an insult, since he is complaining about it.
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I don't think what I believe matters, what matters is the law.Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
Most democracies with rule of law tend to view violent attempts at interfering with government function or composition as illegal (and we have a word for those, 'coups'). Well, at least they view attempts at interfering with their own government functions or composition as illegal. The US certainly was very happy to violently overthrow other Democratic governments, but that's besides the point in this particular case.Indifference is BlissComment
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Like when the country first started?Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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I am confused by your question. How does it relate to N35t0r's comments at all?
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He doesn't have a case, he's on film telling people to commit crimes for which he was never charged and people in his audience were shouting Fed. It would be like accusing a man of murder after finding him holding a knife while standing over the victim of stabbing. Or...it would be like accusing him of being a MAGA insurrectionist when he was actually a fed. Either he's MAGA or a fed and there's evidence for both. Its just funny he's arguing 'fed' is slanderous but not MAGA traitor.Originally posted by Ming View Post
Even if he wasn't a plant
Again, there is NO EVIDENCE that he was a plant. FACT.
And that's why he has a suit against those that labeled him as such.
Let us know when you have any real evidence he was a plant instead of just giving an opinion or theory.
And like JM asks, please provide evidence that the "Democrats" are defending him or have embraced him.
I sure has heck haven't seen Biden, or any of the leading/big hitter Democrats supporting him.
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If they had succeeded, then they could have retroactively declared their actions legal, yes. This is also irrespective of whether I believe it was legal or not. The one who determines that is whoever ends up in charge. Y'all Qaeda didn't succeed in their very sloppy coup attempt (which is what that was), so whoever can be proven to have broken the law will (and have been) suffer the consequences. Pinochet in '73 also attempted a coup (which was illegal at the time) against Allende's government, but since he was much better organized (massive support from the CIA surely helped) he won. Since he won, the coup was legal (at least while he stayed in government). My beliefs are also unfortunately irrelevant regarding to this.Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
Or do you think the founding fathers didn't know that the English would hang them if they lost?
It's also cute that you equate Jan 6th with the founding fathers lol.Indifference is BlissComment
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Yet ONCE AGAIN... There is NO EVIDENCE he was a fed... just wild ass opinions and theories, none of which have been substantiated.Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
Oh, and there is TONS of evidence that he was a MAGA.
And I'm still waiting for your list of "democrats" who defended him considering you keep saying that democrats did just that.
Keep on Civin'
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Googled exactly that and first hit was a NYT article that led with:Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
"Recordings released to defense lawyers directly challenge assertions by prominent Republicans that an Arizona man named Ray Epps was a federal informant and helped start the Capitol riot."
Second hit from Washington Post contained this:
"Footage of him talking to a rioter who was one of the first to overturn a barrier has also been elevated as evidence of his role, but he and that other rioter both testified under oath that Epps sought to defuse, not instigate, events."
Third hit from CBS news had a Jan 6 committee staffer saying this:
"'I would just defend the facts. And the facts are that there's still absolutely zero evidence that Ray Epps was a federal agent, or a federal provocateur, or had any kind of contact with the FBI or any other federal agencies.'"
I guess you have a different google from the rest of us?
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