Politics Thread

[Ming]

Rumble is a platform for free speech and the leading conspiracy sites are funded by our tax dollars.

So in your opinion, free speech must mean the right to just make up whatever you want and try to pass it off as fact.
And please prove that the "leading" conspiracy site are funded by our tax dollars. I guess it would be "interesting" to see what you actually consider a conspiracy site since you think Rumble is not.

[pchang]

I saw a link that stated all this anti-mask wearing was a huge conspiracy put out by the deep state to keep facial recognition working. Wearing masks prevents COVID. All that "freedom" crap was just a cover to keep allowing the government to automatically keep tabs on us.

[Berzerker]

Russiagate was made up and passed off as fact by the government and allied media, Adam Schiff is arguably the most prolific conspiratorialist in Congress and the country. Who invented Covid and told us it came from a wet market and then paid to censor media while bribing CIA analysts to lie about it while 50 top deep state officials covered up Biden's corruption before the election? Hey, Iraq has WMD, lets invade them. The cops are racist murderers - thank god for the mostly peaceful BLM to illuminate the path to better race relations. But no, seriously, Rumble is the problem. I dont know what Rumble disallows, free speech doesn't protect threats and slander but as we can see the latter is commonplace and the price we pay for a more open society.

[Ming]

I see you yet again failed to mention the biggest liar and conspiracy provider in recent history... Trump. He is still pushing his stolen election BS. So your OPINION about Adam Schiff is laughable.
And you have yet to prove that the biggest conspiracy sites are funded by tax payer dollars.
Oh, and please name the "50 top deep state officials" and provide proof.

Rumble is a huge conspiracy site hosting all kinds of wacko stuff. A huge site for QAnon... (I hope you don't believe their BS)
You call it free speech, when it should be called freedom to lie and make up whatever you want.

But I"m sure you will continue to re-post more of that "free speech" from Rumble and try to pass it off as fact instead of what it really is.

[Berzerker]

The election was stolen, various govt agencies censored media to protect Biden while pushing the 'Trump is a traitor' narrative. Trump's lies mostly involve his ego and petty corruption, he was actually one of the more honest presidents on matters of consequence, like how the US murders people and steals oil and lies us into war. Adam Schiff should testify under oath about Russiagate alongside Trump so we can see who is more honest. I already identified the people getting our money - social media was paid to censor people, we know that now thanks to the Twitter Files. Corporate media gets oodles of govt $$$ to push narratives, the government is the biggest source of misinformation.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000

As for Rumble, you're using guilt by association to discredit Glenn Greenwald and David Talbot. By your logic you have no credibility because misinformation is posted at poly.

[Berzerker]

https://youtu.be/Ms3q6vxk_AM

Audio is poor but thats Trump's lawyer cross examining an expert on right wing extremism. Someone in Colorado wants to keep Trump off the ballot for his speech on Jan 6

[Ming]

Yep... and another state as well. I guess that's what happens when you spit on the Constitution.
But I'm sure you will blame Jan 6th on Biden, or BLM or the FBI, and ignore the fact that Trump told people to come to Washington, and then told them to march on the Capital to stop the imaginary steal

[Berzerker]

Oh without a doubt Jan 6 would not have happened if not for BLM's 'summer of love' but the Constitution protects speech. Can I blame Ray Epps?

[Berzerker]

Democrat Andy Beshear won re-election as governor of Kentucky

why cant Democrats nominate someone like him or Jared Polis in Colorado?

[Ming]

Oh without a doubt Jan 6 would not have happened if not for BLM's 'summer of love' but the Constitution protects speech. Can I blame Ray Epps?

No... just your opinion. In Reality, it would never have happened if Trump didn't tell people to come to Washington and then march on the Capital to stop his BS Steal. FACT. Not opinion.
No... you can't blame Ray Epps anymore than any other person that was there. And no, you can't blame the FBI, Democrats and government agents or space aliens. Why don't you actually blame the real instigator... you know TRUMP, instead of trying to blame everybody else.

[Berzerker]

https://youtu.be/n5LfhoPJ3tw

Julian Assange was willing to testify under oath and provide technical data showing Russia didn't hack the DNC emails. James Comey allegedly blocked him from testifying.

[Berzerker]

No... just your opinion. In Reality, it would never have happened if Trump didn't tell people to come to Washington and then march on the Capital to stop his BS Steal. FACT. Not opinion.
No... you can't blame Ray Epps anymore than any other person that was there. And no, you can't blame the FBI, Democrats and government agents or space aliens. Why don't you actually blame the real instigator... you know TRUMP, instead of trying to blame everybody else.

Trump didn't tell people to enter the building or charge thru barricades, Ray Epps did. BLM and the Democrats had over 500 riots before the election to beat Trump, that made rioting fashionable. Trump's complicity is irrelevant to what Democrats did to beat him and pave the way for political violence in return from their victims.

"Michael Teter, an attorney representing Epps in the defamation case, said Epps’ plea agreement is “powerful evidence of the absurdity of Fox News’ and Tucker Carlson’s lies that sought to turn Ray into a scapegoat for January 6.”

“Had Ray been charged earlier, Fox News would have called him a hero and political prisoner,” Teter said in an emailed statement. “Instead, Fox News spread falsehoods about Ray that have cost him his livelihood and safety.”

https://apnews.com/article/jan-6-capitol-riot-misdemeanor-charge-conspiracy-theory-157ce51c7ded7f30f21cfab834dcce74

I said 2-3 months ago charging Epps with a misdemeanor would help his lawsuit vs Fox. My next prediction, he'll get a slap on the wrist when he's sentenced next month. Meanwhile Trump is facing politically motivated felonies over a speech he made as Epps was down at the capital organizing a riot... oops, I mean an insurrection. Do you notice how the narrative changes with Epps? These MAGA terrorists and traitors attacking our beloved democracy but here we have a man on video conspiring with at least 2 men to rush the building and he's the poor victim of a right wing conspiracy theory. AP left that out of their story and spun the 'evidence' Epps was urging calm, that urging was to the man who immediately charged thru the barricade. Shortly before that he was telling another man to leave weapons behind or risk getting shot by cops. No mention of that either by the AP... Its all narrative.

[Ming]

One more time... would they even have been there if Trump hadn't instructed them to come to Washington.
Who told them to go down to the capital...
Who told them to stop the steal.

But go ahead and blame everybody else... as you always do.
And please feel free to continue with your Ray Epps Fantasy. It's all one big smoke screen so you can avoid blaming the REAL person responsible for Jan 6th.

And one more time... BLM isn't the Democratic party... just like the KKK isn't the Republican party.
You keep saying Democrat Riots... they were no such thing. It was BLM protesting against black people getting shot by police.
Whether you agree with them or not, it was NOT the Democrats.
And gee, since some black people are Republicans, why don't you blame the Republicans for the BLM riots.

[Berzerker]

our VP Kamala Harris was raising $$$ to bail BLM rioters out of jail

[Berzerker]

BLM was making mint off 'donations' from corporations (Jesse Jackson called the tactic 'shaking the tree') and it was Democrats accusing the cops of being racist murderers. One minute Joe Biden is praising the capital police for Jan 6 and the next he's accusing them of racism because they would have beaten the hell out of black protesters.

[Berzerker]

None of that is illegal... what Ray Epps did was illegal. Democrats not only organized protests they bailed rioters out of jail and threatened people. Chuck Schumer gave a speech threatening violence against supreme court judges and a guy showed up to kill one of them. If people protest and violence breaks out I dont blame the protesters, but when they have 100s of protests turn into riots then the protesters deserve blame. Not surprising at all to see BLM buying up real estate with donations, it was a scam and its disappearance after the election makes it obvious. MLK ran into that problem a week before he was murdered, a protest he attended turned violent and someone was killed. He felt responsible and was considering a different approach and almost didn't go to Memphis.

[Berzerker]

https://youtu.be/v2eoq_SuYwM

Pennsylvania mayoral election nullified by judge after viewing video of ballot "harvesting" at a drop box, a woman now taking the 5th made multiple trips to a drop box.