Politics Thread

[Berzerker]

former CIA director Michael Hayden (was he one of the 51 experts who lied to us to elect Biden?) says Sen Tommy Tuberville should be removed from the human race for blocking military promotions over abortion funding. He tried to walk it back:

Earlier Tuesday, Hayden tweeted that he was, "surprised to wake up this morning and discover MAGAnuts had lost their minds over my suggestions that ‘Coach’ Tuberville not be considered a member of the human race."

Here's what he said:

When one social media platform X user asked if Tuberville should be removed from his committee, Hayden responded, "how about the human race?"

Sadly our taxes support this man

[pchang]

Here is a link to a paper that is probably the source of Berz’s assertion. If you read through, you will find it is based upon 2 case studies. So very far from statistically significant and no effort is made to compare against how many people naturally have cancer relapse.

This, by the way is how one does their own research.

[Berzerker]

Gee Berz... I talked to my doctor today and he said your claims are total BS. He said most sources are not reporting what you claim is being reported. And, most of the Democrats I know didn't think there was a 50% chance to have to go to the hospital.
So I call BS on that one as well. I'm sure you saw it in some Video and is just reporting it.

So your doctor confirmed some sources are reporting a connection between boosters and relapse rates? I'm getting my info from one of those sources and I'm not sure why your doctor would call it BS, I hope he's not a Melanoma specialist treating you and if he isn't, well, I'll go with the guy who has been treating patients for decades. As for the poll, I've posted it at Poly at least once, most recently when Rabbit called it BS. QAnon was better informed on covid than BluAnon and that brainwashing created a panic that drove people mad... and they were Democrats. People lost their jobs or took the jabs, lives were destroyed, and the victims were being called Nazis for protesting.

Remember when we were told the vax would prevent infection and transmission? Pfizer never tested the vax for that. It was a lie. We were told that lie and every time lockdown restrictions were relaxed for vaccinated people covid infection rates spiked. That lie got people killed, that lie convinced vaccinated people they couldn't get covid or transmit it to their loved ones. And while that was happening the Democrats were slamming and smearing and censoring people telling the truth.

[Berzerker]

If cancer patients who get covid infections also relapse at higher rates then cancer patients need data on covid infection rates with and without vaccine and boosters to make rational cost/benefits analysis of receiving vaccine or boosters against covid. Do you have that data Berz? Without it, how would you know the wisdom of the covid vaccine or it's boosters even for the limited population segment of cancer patients?

The doctor John Campbell interviewed is a Melanoma specialist who has seen stable patients getting relapses at higher rates and he saw they were all up to date on their boosters. So that assumes a higher rate than the non-boostered population who would ostensibly get covid at higher rates than the boosted population. That suggests the relapse rate for the boosted population is higher than both the non-boosted and covid survivor populations.

[Ming]

Gee Berz... I talked to my doctor today and he said your claims are total BS. He said most sources are not reporting what you claim is being reported. And, most of the Democrats I know didn't think there was a 50% chance to have to go to the hospital.
So I call BS on that one as well. I'm sure you saw it in some Video and is just reporting it.

[Geronimo]

speaking of Covid, or more accurately, the vaccine... Get a 2nd opinion before boosters if you have any comorbidity that depends on your immune system running well

cancer doctors are noticing relapses in patients who are up to date on their boosters. The theory is the vax stresses the immune system allowing for the disease to advance, maybe they're also finding (and distinguishing) cancer patients who get Covid are also relapsing at higher rates. I'd expect any bug or vaccine hitting the immune system to have an effect on cancer cell development, boosters every 6-12 months might not be a good idea, especially if you got Covid already. My sister's breast cancer relapsed within a month of a bout of the flu in January years before Covid. I dont know if a flu shot in the fall would have helped her or if cancer patients are advised against them.

If cancer patients who get covid infections also relapse at higher rates then cancer patients need data on covid infection rates with and without vaccine and boosters to make rational cost/benefits analysis of receiving vaccine or boosters against covid. Do you have that data Berz? Without it, how would you know the wisdom of the covid vaccine or it's boosters even for the limited population segment of cancer patients?

[Berzerker]

If you need an opinion then I'm sorry, but I'm not the cancer doctors reporting higher relapse rates of fully vaxxed patients and I'm not a Democrat, roughly half thought people had a ~50% chance of being hospitalized from Covid because of the brainwashing of Pfizer's messengers. Imagine that, the people doing their own research had a better grasp of reality than the party of crusaders out to censor the world to protect us from misinformation.

[N35t0r]

speaking of Covid, or more accurately, the vaccine... Get a 2nd opinion before boosters if you have any comorbidity that depends on your immune system running well

cancer doctors are noticing relapses in patients who are up to date on their boosters. The theory is the vax stresses the immune system allowing for the disease to advance, maybe they're also finding (and distinguishing) cancer patients who get Covid are also relapsing at higher rates. I'd expect any bug or vaccine hitting the immune system to have an effect on cancer cell development, boosters every 6-12 months might not be a good idea, especially if you got Covid already. My sister's breast cancer relapsed within a month of a bout of the flu in January years before Covid. I dont know if a flu shot in the fall would have helped her or if cancer patients are advised against them.

Oh, don't worry, I will get another opinion, but I'll count it as the first, because I'm not considering yours.

[BeBMan]

Israel-Palestinian situation has exploded.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-...-east-67037895

Is surely worth its own thread, but for now it's just sad to see.

[Berzerker]

speaking of Covid, or more accurately, the vaccine... Get a 2nd opinion before boosters if you have any comorbidity that depends on your immune system running well

cancer doctors are noticing relapses in patients who are up to date on their boosters. The theory is the vax stresses the immune system allowing for the disease to advance, maybe they're also finding (and distinguishing) cancer patients who get Covid are also relapsing at higher rates. I'd expect any bug or vaccine hitting the immune system to have an effect on cancer cell development, boosters every 6-12 months might not be a good idea, especially if you got Covid already. My sister's breast cancer relapsed within a month of a bout of the flu in January years before Covid. I dont know if a flu shot in the fall would have helped her or if cancer patients are advised against them.

[Berzerker]

were the people he described as miracle workers?

[Berzerker]

sounds like Covid or any number of our wars

but Trump stands out I guess as especially evil... we're with her

[Geronimo]

I'm seeing parallels to the Turkish response to the assassination of one ministry official to Israel's response to a massive attack killing hundreds of Israeli civilians. So I'll give the Israelis credit for better proportionality than Turkey. I suppose however, that is damning with faint praise.

[pchang]

Heller was actually describing the masses who were so easily duped.

[BeBMan]

Heller wasn't arming terrorists.