Politics Thread

[Berzerker]

Who was Heller describing in the book and was he arming terrorists?

[Berzerker]

The Atlantic is neocon propaganda

[Berzerker]

thats the same process the Trump people tried, they couldn't get a senator from the state being challenged to sign on and the effort failed in the House

[Uncle Sparky]

Well over 200 Palestinian men, women, and children have been killed by Israeli security services this year prior to this action. Egyptian, Saudi, Jordanian, and other security services have been warning about this for months. Israel has had a very hawkish military chief... 100% perdictable.

[Uncle Sparky]

Trump

“It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character.”

Joseph Heller, Catch-22

[Broken_Erika]

Israel-Palestinian situation has exploded.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67037895

[BeBMan]

Well, at least they seem to have dropped the idea of making Trump himself the next speaker...

[pchang]

Steven Scalise is running.

[BeBMan]

Other than Jim Jordan, who (seemingly) got a Medal of Freedom for being pro-Trump -- who else is running for Speaker and is there anyone more respectable in the field (should be easy to achieve as Jordan keeps the bar low)?

[pchang]

Quod erat demonstrandum

[Berzerker]

wasn't equating anything just pointing out how both parties riot and deny election results

[-Jrabbit]

I see Mike "My Pillow" Lindell's entire legal team has quit for nonpayment. He's now joining Rudy as being basically broke.

Lindell is seriously unhinged. Here's the interview; it's short and trainwreck-fascinating:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2023/10/06/mypillow-ceo-mike-lindell-says-he-has-no-money-left-to-pay-lawyers-in-election-lawsuits/?sh=79f58c506e81

[pchang]

That you would equate those things shows just how deranged you have become.

[Jon Miller]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/trump-nuclear-secrets-australia/675553/

Why am I not surprised?

JM

[Jon Miller]

3 democratic house members lodged objections but not a single democratic senator.

It was entirely legal to do so, and it had been done 4 times since 1877. It wasn't at all similar to what took place on January 6, 2021.

Jackson Lee and her allies argued that widespread voter suppression in states won by Trump tarnished the results. They also pointed to research provided by a team of independent lawyers that found dozens of Republican electors were technically ineligible to serve. But their arguments failed to persuade their Senate colleagues to step forward.

Though any single member may lodge an objection, only those supported by both a House member and senator are eligible for debate. Had the effort by House Democrats gained the support of a single senator, it would have delayed the confirmation of Trump’s victory by hours, forcing the Senate to retreat to its chamber and debate the merits of each challenged electoral vote.

The attempted objections began immediately, when Rep. James McGovern (D-Mass.) protested Alabama’s electoral votes, citing Russian interference in the presidential election. His declaration drew a sharp round of booing from the Republicans in the chamber.
Biden asked whether his objection was in writing and if he had the support of a senator. When McGovern acknowledged he had no senator, Biden quickly moved on.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/no-trump-electoral-college-challenge-233294

JM