Politics Thread

[Jon Miller]

We have countless scams and illegal activities by Donald Trump.

Other than plagiarism? do we have any examples from Joe Biden?

JM

[Geronimo]

Hunter Biden and Burisma: FBI source charged with lying about Biden bribe claims

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68313086

unfortunately this is about as useful to clear the cloud of suspicion surrounding the Biden's business dealings in Ukraine as revealing the Steele Dossier to be a complete work of fiction was for clearing the cloud of suspicion surrounding the Trump's business dealings in Russia.

[BeBMan]

Just came across this:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68315943

Banning him for running against Putin couple years ago wasn't enough to silence him, so poison and prison followed.

IIRC he was more on the nationalist, anti-immigration side in his early years, but moved away from that over the years. However, his early POVs did not get him into trouble, this only started to get serious when he became more and more pro-democracy, anti-corruption - which automatically set him against Putin.

[BeBMan]

From that link

When questioned again by FBI agents in 2023, Mr Smirnov allegedly changed elements of his story and made new allegations after claiming to have met with Russian officials.

[Broken_Erika]

Hunter Biden and Burisma: FBI source charged with lying about Biden bribe claims

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68313086

[Berzerker]

"Gratuitous"

Thats the establishment buzzword because the DoJ guy in charge of Biden's documents issue said they wont prosecute because the jury will see Joe as an old forgetful man. Crazy, Biden wont be charged and Democrats are mad anyway. Maybe the outrage is BS because they cant embrace the dismissal of charges while pushing for Trump's prosecution.

[Berzerker]

I didn't know they had to vote twice to get the desired result... Kinda at odds with the notion of double jeopardy.

Weiss indicted Smirnov for making a false statement about Joe Biden's corruption in Ukraine. Not sure yet what he said but it might be related to his claim Joe and Hunter got $5-$10m, possibly for getting rid of Shokin. I think Weiss is the Delaware guy in charge of Hunter's gun & tax problems, whatever deal he made with Hunter's lawyers blew up in his face when the judge noticed Weiss was granting Hunter potential immunity from future charges.

Whistleblowers beware, dot the i's and cross them t's...

[Ming]

People got infected from both those vaccinated and those that weren't. That's a fact.
The vaccination saved lives. FACT

So what's your point again?

[Dauphin]

Bit odd that a vote for impeachment fails, and you can just revote the next week for the same reasons. Most other systems I know make you 'safe' from such actions for a limited period of time.

[Berzerker]

214-213 House GOP impeaches Mayorkas over border policy

Biden's in charge, why bother with somebody following orders?

This hurts the GOP, it looks petty and illogical

[Berzerker]

Didn't save the people who died after getting infected from vaccinated people

[Berzerker]

You dont know that

[Ming]

FACT The Vaccine saved lives

[Berzerker]

Do you have a link about social distancing? I haven't looked at studies on that specific subject. The lie was the vaccine prevented transmission. Pfizer claimed they didn't test the vaccine for transmission (Thats another lie, ofc they did). But instead 'the establishment' running the country told us the vaccine prevented transmission. As a result of that lie people got vaccinated, got infected, and spread covid to others, including the unvaccinated people being blamed for the pandemic. It became obvious in the summer of '21 when lockdown restrictions were being lifted for the vaccinated in various parts of the world followed by covid spikes.

From your article:

“but not so much against transmission.”

Feb '22... We knew that months earlier but when did Pfizer and their propagandists know?

"A subsequent study,4 conducted later in the course of the pandemic when the delta variant was dominant, showed vaccines had a less pronounced effect on denting onward transmission, but were still effective."

Thats when I got the shots, I was told I wouldn't get covid much less spread it. I wasn't worried so much for myself as giving it to others. I wouldn't have gotten the vax if not for the lies and panic 4 profit created by Wall St.

[Geronimo]

Pfizer had a SB ad showing themselves in the company of various scientists thru time all to the voice of Freddie Mercury singing "Dont Stop Me Now"

a line from the song is 'traveling at the speed of light' as Freddie describes his unstoppable momentum. Speed of light sound familiar? When Pfizer had to testify before a European body they were asked why they didn't test their vaccine for transmission and their rep said they were moving at the speed of science. The media and politicians they bribed told us the vaccine did prevent transmission. That lie got people killed, the vaccinated became infected anyway and spread it to the people being blamed - the unvaccinated.

Didn't Pfizer get in trouble a while back for knowingly sending a batch of medicine tainted with HIV to Africa? Eh, maybe not. That would be evil.

Berz, social distancing appears to have failed to significantly save lives. Do you disagree? If social distancing didn't work and the vaccine also didn't slow the transmission then how did the lies get anybody killed?

For the record, the real lie appears to be the one that the vaccines didn't drastically slow transmission rates and shorten hospitalizations. That lie probably actually did get hundreds of thousands killed by convincing them to not get vaccinated.

https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o298