Robert F Kennedy for President?

[Berzerker]

The Atlantic is untrustworthy

[Geronimo]

The Atlantic is untrustworthy

how do you identify trustworthy sources Berz?

[Berzerker]

I identified an untrustworthy source

[N35t0r]

I identified an untrustworthy source

Which would imply you knew how to distinguish it from a trustworthy source. (Also, pretty rich coming from a guy who rarely gives a source for anything, and when he does it's just a rando YouTube video).

[Berzerker]

Which would imply you knew how to distinguish it from a trustworthy source. (Also, pretty rich coming from a guy who rarely gives a source for anything, and when he does it's just a rando YouTube video).

No, it 'implies' I know how to recognize an untrustworthy source. Trustworthy sources are much harder to identify and I just posted several links in response to your request for evidence of vax risk in kids from studies in Thailand and Taiwan. So instead of addressing that evidence you're complaining about the links you wanted.

[N35t0r]

No, it 'implies' I know how to recognize an untrustworthy source. Trustworthy sources are much harder to identify and I just posted several links in response to your request for evidence of vax risk in kids from studies in Thailand and Taiwan. So instead of addressing that evidence you're complaining about the links you wanted.

I didn't ask for those, JM did (it's also one link to a paper and one link to a fact checking article, that's not 'seceral links'). He then followed up with three other likes you ignored. Whis is pretty muslch SOP for you, when anyone actually posts evidence against some of your ridiculous claims, you just ignore them, like when discussing vaccine effectiveness. I'm not going to waste my time arguing this with you again (you're free to go back to our last discussion on the issue and address my arguments and the data supporting them if you want to continue).

Incidentally, from the paper you linked:
Conclusion: Cardiac symptoms are common after the second dose of BNT162b2 vaccine, but the incidences of significant arrhythmias and myocarditis are only 0.1%. The serial ECG screening method has high sensitivity and specificity for significant cardiac adverse effect but cost effect needs further discussed.

If you actually want to support your claim that the vaccines in kids are worse than useless, you'd also need to find evidence that unvaccinated kids don't have more complications from COVID than vaccinated kids.

[Berzerker]

You asked for links in post 36 and I posted 3 links about 2 studies. I didn't say the vax was worse than useless, I said it's a risk that can outweigh the reward. I never said there was no reward, only that the reward is largest for old sick people. The reward shrinks and the risk increases in younger (healthy) people. Parents have to assess risk for their kids and Fauci et al lied to us. We were told kids wouldn't get covid or give it to the grandfolks. That was a lie, the vaccinated were getting covid and spreading it to the unvaccinated who were blamed and demonized.

How do you calculate the complications from the vax? Isn't that something we wont know for years/decades? I think the people bringing us messages from Pfizer will continue lying about the vax. If you want people to vaccinate children you need evidence the risk is worth the reward and you dont even know what the vax does now much less what it will do to them in the future. Pray... I am.

[N35t0r]

You asked for links in post 36 and I posted 3 links about 2 studies. I didn't say the vax was worse than useless, I said it's a risk that can outweigh the reward. I never said there was no reward, only that the reward is largest for old sick people. The reward shrinks and the risk increases in younger (healthy) people. Parents have to assess risk for their kids and Fauci et al lied to us. We were told kids wouldn't get covid or give it to the grandfolks. That was a lie, the vaccinated were getting covid and spreading it to the unvaccinated who were blamed and demonized.

How do you calculate the complications from the vax? Isn't that something we wont know for years/decades? I think the people bringing us messages from Pfizer will continue lying about the vax. If you want people to vaccinate children you need evidence the risk is worth the reward and you dont even know what the vax does now much less what it will do to them in the future. Pray... I am.

How do you calculate complications from COVID? Isn't that something we won't know for years/decades? I think the people bringing us anti-healthcare messages will continue lying about the vax. If you want people not to vaccinate children you need evidence that the risk is not worth the reward and you don't even know what COVID does now Mitch less what it will do to them in future.

That was really easy.

[Edit:] also, your links only addressed a small part of the claims in the post you refer.

[Berzerker]

How do you calculate complications from COVID? Isn't that something we won't know for years/decades? I think the people bringing us anti-healthcare messages will continue lying about the vax. If you want people not to vaccinate children you need evidence that the risk is not worth the reward and you don't even know what COVID does now Mitch less what it will do to them in future.

That was really easy.

[Edit:] also, your links only addressed a small part of the claims in the post you refer.

We wont know the full effects of Covid either, so why volunteer for the unknown. Should babies get vaccinated? Does the reward still outweigh the risk from the vax? The links addressed the subject of vaccine risk in young people, if you wanted something else identify it.

[Dinner]

This is actually a very good interview. It is a shame he has to go to a U.K. outlet to get coverage simply because the DNC corruptly is in bed with left wing media in the U.S..

https://youtu.be/AY89a_zXi9s

[EPW]

I watched it. He sucks.

[Dinner]

Some good, some bad, I would like to see him debate Biden. Oh, wait, the DNC is completely corrupt and hates democracy so it cancelled all debates to protect a brain dead fossil who very few people like.

https://youtu.be/hjqDoPD7AXM

[PLATO]

Some good, some bad, I would like to see him debate Biden. Oh, wait, the DNC is completely corrupt and hates democracy so it cancelled all debates to protect a brain dead fossil who very few people like.

Aaaaand who controls the DNC? Biden's puppet masters...The Clintons and Obamas. 20 odd years later we are still waiting on the Clintons to give up power....

[Berzerker]

and their billionaire friends... and the security state

I used to call it the deep state but they've been quite open with their election rigging.

[Jon Miller]

A sitting president usually only has a primary if he is very weak.

Most Democrats don't consider Biden to be very weak, even if they would prefer someone else. The reason they would prefer someone else is primarily because of his age. I think it is a real weakness against someone like DeSantis (DeSantis might have the problems though... ), but not against Trump probably.

If you were to ask Democrats about a primary to select the VP, I think there would be broad support from Democrats for such a primary.

JM

[Berzerker]

me too... I'd gladly vote for Fetterman over Biden or Kamala