Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Aeson]

It's not far from the truth. Trump didn't give anything to Ukraine. He just showed up to the scene and demanded $500 billion from the victim to negotiate peace, with no security guarantee.

[Geronimo]

It's not far from the truth. Trump didn't give anything to Ukraine. He just showed up to the scene and demanded $500 billion from the victim to negotiate peace, with no security guarantee.

no because Bereta calls Trump's attitude as the US attitude. Trump may not have given Ukraine anything new as president since the end of his first term but the US as a state certainly did. Trump also isn't grabbing the wealth for himself but for the state. The allegory is grossly wrong either way but especially for the US as a state.

if we want an allegory for Trump alone separate from the state we might remember that Trump sent 1.5 billion in military grants to Ukraine. The allegory would probably involve the Trump boss contacting a mugging victim and offering 1.5 billion in weapons in exchange for victim assistance in trying to embarrass the rival Biden family but giving the weapons with no strings attached when the request became public. Then the Rival Biden family took over the organization. Then the mugger came back and mugged the Ukraine victim again and the Biden family granted over 100 million more in weapons and grants to the stabbed mugging victim who picked himself up with the assistance of the Biden family and his neighbors and the victim eventually used the help to make the mugger look as bloodied as the victim. The Trump family usurped the Biden family gaining control once more of the organization and soon halted all Biden grants to the victim unless the victim would offer something in return for his organizations assistance to the Victim while receiving earlier grants under the Biden family and also for future assistance from the organization to be paid under the Trump family.

That's basically the allegory. It does not make sense to say that either Trump is just pilfering dead ukraine for free loot or especially not to say that the US is doing that. Trump's crime regarding respect for Canadian sovereignty (for starters) however may indicate something that bad may be coming but this Ukrainian stupidity isn't it. not yet. hopefully never.

[Aeson]

I think he's saying Trump's foreign policy is now US foreign policy. Which it is.

[Aeson]

In any case, what Trump did is worse than just showing up and looting a corpse. A corpse isn't going to care, and the deed was already done. Trump is actively bullying sentient victims while they are in dire straights, demanding thanks for things he didn't do, lying about what was done, trying to leverage their desperation to get them to pay an absurd amount, and not even guarantee they get anything in return.

[Dauphin]

Yes. Mafia state is more apt for his presidency than fascist state.