Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Uncle Sparky]

Someone should post the White House meeting between Zelenskyy and the Clown... Wow... just wow.
I'm sorry Trump didn't get punched in the face.
This was an eight year old in full tantrum... Some adults needed.

[Dauphin]

I think he's right - Hunter Biden's bathroom or bedroom and whatever Bush supposedly did in 2014 in Crimea was terrible.

[Uncle Sparky]

Not to mention the Billions Obama sent Zelenskyy...
Remember when Biden messed up a couple of facts in a speech and his entire party called to him to step down?

[BeBMan]

Someone should post the White House meeting between Zelenskyy and the Clown... Wow... just wow.
I'm sorry Trump didn't get punched in the face.
This was an eight year old in full tantrum... Some adults needed.

So Zelenskyy a hero again. Ukraine resisting both big nuclear powers at the same time. Not even Vietnam managed to pull that off.

(But to be fair Vietnam won also against China in the 1970ies, but China still has way less nukes)

[Bereta_Eder]

There's some reporting that Trump's "friendliness" towards Russia might be an attempt to separate Russia and China.

*If that is a thing I say good luck with that. Both Russia and China are long term competitors, if not enemies of the US, with deep-rooted ideological and geostrategic diffs towards America. And Russia can't be sure what POV next US presidents will take, while China is a relatively safe bet for them.

Absolutely.

Russia honestly believes the world is out to get them and the archnemesis is the US and always has been. Trump is a small parenthesis in the US history and in no way changes russia's opinion of the US. They are not very far off I've watched some int ervews of the so called deep american state and they seem to have honest hatred for russians. I do see russians point actually on this.
Having said that, they treat the thing now with trump as a temporary opportunity.

if however there is indeed a change in the american psyche and trump isn't just an accident but something that endures and repeats itself then they might rearrange a bit their strategy but in no way put the US above china.


It is 100% certain that russian interests are served absolutely now with trump and american and european interests are being destroyed. this is the best scenario for putin.
Still it doesn't really change the reality on the ground.

In order for the US to really serve putin they must destroy NATO. If they do that then all bets are off.

Some time ago thhat would have been unimaginable but not any more. Besides the damage already done is very big. I'm sure the baltics are a bit annoyed that's probably why the european head of foreign diplacy said that trump is no longer tej leader of the free world.

[Geronimo]

I have never protested in my life but I'm trying to contact organizers of pro-ukrainian protestors now to see what I can do.

[Berzerker]

you will get more people killed

[Geronimo]

I will add also that calling Trump "the leader of the free world" at this point is beyond comically and tragically absurd.

[Berzerker]

That's not in line with his actions in Chechnya, Georgia, Belarus, Crimea and Donbass.

Negotiating for an autonomous Donbass would require Russian troops to leave Ukraine, which isn't something that Putin seems to want.
Also, if Russia cared about that, the time was before invading, not after. You're arguing that the allies in '39 should have tried to negotiate an autonomous Danzig corridor with Hitler rather than declaring war after he invaded Poland.

Negotiating doesn't require that and in late '21 early '22 Russia was still trying to keep the Donbas within Ukraine in accordance with Minsk. In 2019 a newly elected Zelensky went to the Donbas to end the war as he promised during his campaign. He met Denis, the leader of the Azov (effing Nazis) forces and told him to stop his fighting with the protesters and disarm and withdraw. Denis mocked him pointing to his hip revealing he wasn't armed and Zelensky left with his tail between his legs.

[Ming]

Trump is the leader of only the United States now... since most world leaders think he is a joke. Europe and all of our other "allies" should look else where for friends, because all Trump wants is for them to kiss his ass and do whatever he wants. He is no longer the leader of the free world, and just another petty little child.

[BeBMan]

Trump echoes Putin's "Ukrainians are encircled" lines, Ukraine sez that's not true. ISW sez there's no evidence for encirclements at this point.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/15/europe/zelensky-putin-kursk-encircle-russia-ukraine-intl/index.html

Maybe there's just different theories about encirclements. Like y'know being encircled and not-encircled simultaneously??? Which is probably an alternative form of encirclement

[Broken_Erika]

Trump echoes Putin's "Ukrainians are encircled" lines, Ukraine sez that's not true. ISW sez there's no evidence for encirclements at this point.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/15/europe/zelensky-putin-kursk-encircle-russia-ukraine-intl/index.html

Maybe there's just different theories about encirclements. Like y'know being encircled and not-encircled simultaneously??? Which is probably an alternative form of encirclement

Schrodinger's encirrclement

[Berzerker]

https://x.com/i/status/1901663404776960096

Boris Johnson explaining why peace failed in 2019 after Zelensky was elected

[giblets]

Launching a full invasion of a neighboring country because the central government can't control a militia near the border sounds more like a pretext for doing what Putin wanted to do anyway than the actual reason.

[N35t0r]

Berz would apparently fully support Trump invading Mexico over the Cartels.

[Bereta_Eder]

trump's attitude and that is the US attitude tpowards ukraine is smone is stabbed to death and you steal his golden necklage while he's bleeding to death

and the whole world sees what scum trump and the US is. they will pay very dearly in the future


also that jokme of a human being didn't stop the war he just managed to save a couple power plants for a month, meanwhile russia is bombing hospitals

[Geronimo]

trump's attitude and that is the US attitude tpowards ukraine is smone is stabbed to death and you steal his golden necklage while he's bleeding to death

and the whole world sees what scum trump and the US is. they will pay very dearly in the future


also that jokme of a human being didn't stop the war he just managed to save a couple power plants for a month, meanwhile russia is bombing hospitals

ahhh. you mean someone gave the person being stabbed thousands worth of weapons with which the victim of the stabbing was supposed to defend themselves while refusing to lift a finger to directly fight the stabber themselves and conspired with the stabbing victims neighbors to arrange for them to help the stabbing victim with low interest loans and some additional weapons until just when it looked like the stabbing victim might overcome the exhausted injured stabber the someone who had given so many weapons abruptly refused to help anymore unless the stabbing victim paid them and declared that all that mattered now was an end to the fighting and loudly claimed that both parties were responsible for the fighting (which had obviously occurred when the stabber had abruptly charged into the victims yard to stab them in their yard while the stabbers friends carried off belongings from the victims yard for the stabber to keep. This someone who now loudly refused to give any more "free" weapons or assistance to the victim offered to continue to do so if the bleeding victim would make them an offer.

The scene is sickeningly cynical and mortifying for the neighbors who had been cooperating with this someone to defeat the stabbers attack. However, it is nothing like the scene you described where the someone first shows up when the victim is dead in order to pilfer loot from the victim without having given or surrendered anything at all on the victim's behalf much less almost as much as all of the other neighbors combined by some measures.

Trump's thoughtless BS and moronic sabotage of effort after 3 years is truly appalling, but it is *nothing* like what you describe. I hope it never becomes anything like that. An important thing to consider is that if the US, like the vast majority of the countries of the world had done nothing whatsoever about Russia's invasion would Ukraine and its allies be better off today? I don't see it. It looks to me like the US has still given far, *far* more to Ukraine than the damage it has inflicted on Ukraine. He's shaking the trust that NATO is founded on to its foundations (for no apparent gain really, I might add) and that jerk-around didn't feature in your allegory. Even worse he is incessantly declaring no respect for Canada's sovereignty and is trashing his own trade treaty that he basically authored and signed and trashing it purely in order to gain a tax revenue stream and telling Canadians that there's no way back to the deal he negotiated and signed unless they abandon their sovereignty, but you didn't have an allegory for that either. Do you really believe this crap or are you just getting lazier with your trolling in your old age?