Originally posted by Geronimo
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And it's only an Ukranian center, which is only dedicated to make fakes and nothing else!!! How mahy of such centers do you have in your entire West?
The West is spreading fakes about Russia since the 16th century, when we became an Empire or Tzardom, if you like (though Tzar=Ceasar=Kaiser= Emperor).
What you are doing now with your Western brainwashing media machine is above all limits!
You create fakes at mass scale, you demonize Russians for all you care, you don't need any proofs, "a highly likely" is more than enough for a brainless zombies.
You don't even notice how you became a Fourth Reich - a mirror of the Third Reich with only exception that Hitler blamed Jews for all sins, while you blame Russians.
You exclude people from sport, take their property and take their money, ban their culture and language, humilate them, just only because of their nationality.
So, who the f*ck are you, if not a modern Nazis?
WHO?
Open your eyes!!! Look at your media with a cold head and then for once make an unbiased conclusion!!!
For once for a God's sake!!!
The Nazi's weren't stopped because they had offensive mannerisms and bad taste. And they weren't stopped because they were Nazis (how circular would that be!).
They were stopped because invaded other states and engaged in genocide. If they hadn't done either of those things nobody would give a rats arse that they were Nazis. Do you really not understand?
They were stopped because invaded other states and engaged in genocide. If they hadn't done either of those things nobody would give a rats arse that they were Nazis. Do you really not understand?
My people lost 27 million of human lives to Nazis, 2/3 of whom where civilians! 17 millions of children, women and elders!
The Nazis have invaded my land with a sole goal - to subjugate and exterminate us, to make us what a Native Americans were to the WASPs (btw, James Fenimore Cooper was Hitler's most liked writer).
2/3 out of 6 million Jews who fell victims to the Holocoust were the SOVIET Jews!
SOVIET!!!
Four millions of RUSSIAN Jews!
That number is included in 27 MILLIONS of killed Russians!
Now you can pick ANY random Russian from the crowd and he/she will tell you about his granfather who fought vs. Nazis!
Because EVERY, once again - EVERY Russian existing now is a decendend of the ones who had SURVIVED in the war vs. Nazism.
My grandfather had two brothers, both of them were in the military when the war has started, but he is only one who had survived and WON and had children later!!!. My grand grandfather (the father of my another grandfather) participated in the military parade at November 7, 1941, and a few days later was KIA during the battle of Moscow, just like his brother.
WE, RUSSIANS - ARE DESCENDANTS OF SURVIVORS!
EVERY ONE OF US!!!
Are you able to UNDERSTAND THAT?
That is why Russians are the last people on Earth who want war!!!
But, if you left us no choice - WE WILL SIMLPY DESTROY YOU!!!
Just to do not repeat the 1941 again!
NEVER AGAIN!!!
If that was even remotely true Ukraine's military would have collapsed even faster than the Afghani government as soon as the Russian operation crossed the borders.
Until the moment Eltsin have betrayed them and refused to send spare parts for their tanks.
You don't puppet a people into laying their lives down for their countries.
The Russians of Donbass have refused to live under an anti-Russian junta after the coup of 2014, initiated BY YOU!!!
They have refused to be a second-grade humans and to be a puppet of the Kiev's regime and revolted!
You have a: "Hang the Russians, knife the Russians" at Maidan and then wonder why the parts of Ukraine historically populated by Russians are revolting?
Is such kind of reaction and a right of the people to revolt against the unconstitutional coup REALLY surprises you?
I don't think you, Geronimo is so dumb to believe that.
Your fellow zombie countrymen are.
Puppet states collapse into atoms of people running home to their homes and families when danger threatens the puppet enterprise.
Out of 38 millions population Ukraine had before YOUR coup of 2014:
5 millions had escaped to Russia (strage isn't it, when a population runs to a "country-agressor", right?),
3 millions had escaped to Europe,
1,5 millions of Crimeans have said - "FY, Ukraine!" and have joined Russia after a referendum,
as well as 9 millions of Russian population of Kherson, Zaporoje, Donetsk and Lugansk regions.
When the first law after a coup your parliament was to introduce is the law about to banish the Russian language, how one can wonder that the Russian population of Ukraine is revolting?
Let me make you a brif excursion into the Russian and Ukranian history.
Russia as a state was formed in the 9th century, when two Slavic (Novgorodians and Kriviches) and two Finno-Hungarian tribes (Wespe and Chud) have asked a Scandinavian tribe "Rus" to send a prince to govern them. That Scandinavian prince was Rurik.
"Rus" back than was just a name of the tribe of Vikings, absolutely the same as Sweden, Norwegian, Danes.
When the above Viking guys were nightmaring England, Spain and France (btw, Rurik had participated in raid to Normandy) the Rus tribe had settled at Novgorod.
The Rus, Slavs and Finno-Hungarian tribes have melted into one entity within generations and started their expantion south.
And that expansion was pretty quick! The descendednt of Rurick, prince Oleg (Helga in Scandinavian) in 822 have installed Rurik's son Igor to the throne of Kiev and proclaimed Kiev to be "the Mother of all Russian cities" (proclaimed Kiev to be the capital of Rus). Then he went with a raid to Byzantium and after a sucessful siege of Konstantinopolice have signed a profitable trade treaty, which led to a cration of the trade route, later known as as "the route from the Varangians to the Greeks".
That route has become a backbone of economy for the Rus principalities.
Then came a period when all Russian pinces have fought fot the throne of Kiev, as the Mother of all Russian cities.
Then the Mongols came ad defeted Russians at battle of Kalka river in 1232 (btw, it's modern Donetsk region) and have conquered all Russian prinipalities one by one, only Novgorod (the original residence of Rurik), Pskov, Smolensk and Polotsk had escaped a total devastation.
So, Rus have became a part of the Mongol Empire up to the 1480, despite the joint Russian forces have defeated Mongols at the Kulikovo field in 1380.
Since back then Moskow (founded in 1147) have became a center of re-unification of all Russian prinipalities.
In 1533 Ivan IV (whom you know as the "Terrible", though in Russian "Грозный" means "Terrifying", not the"Terrible" became the first Russian Tzar after conquering Kazan, Astrakhan, Nogai, Siberia former Golden Horde hordes. By the way, the same name bears Grozny, the capital of Chechen Republic (founded under the basis and named after the Russian fortress "Грозная/terrfiying").
In 17th century Kiev remained under Polish rule, as well as some other Russian principalities around it. After the death of Ivan IV, there was a period of turmoil, when the joint Polish-Lithuanian union (Rzech pospolita) have invaded Russia and captured Moscow in 1610 to install a fake son of Ivan IV, known as Fake Dmitry.
We have kicked them out and ELECTED a new Tsar Михаил/Micheal I, who had started a new Romanov's dynasty.
But, Rzech Pospalita was stil a threat and still occupied a lot of territories populated by Russians. In 1648 those territories have revolted over the Polish rule and in 1654 re-united with Russia by Peryaslav agreement according to wich "Malorussia will enter the Russian Empire on the right of authnomy".
That was a re-unifaction of Ukraine and Russia, though nobody in his staright mind considered "Ukraine" as a state or a nation. That was a re-unifaction of a separated RUSSIAN people!!!
"Ukraine" in Russian and Polish means "border lands" - "Окраина". Russia had a dozens of lands named "Окраина/Ukraine".
And since then, since 1654, the lands now you know as Ukraine were part of Russia.
Three and an half of a century!
Then came another threat - Sweden. The best army in Europe leaded by the called back then the modern Alexender. The sate, which already have implemented capitalism and conscription vs. a backward feudal Russia!
They have invaded in 1700 and were defeated by Peter the Great in 1721 burying Swedish ambitions to become the dominating power in Europe forever.
Then came Cathrine the Great, who had beated the crap out of the Ottomans and conquered Novorossiya (New Russia) and Crimea in 1791.
In 1791 Crima and Novorossia region were a wasteland after a centuries of rule of Otomann's pupet - Criman horde.
Crimea was a jungle with swamps. It's Russians who made it a candy by cutting off the jugle and by draining the swaps.
You were laughting back then calling our efforts as "Potemkin's villages".
Now you can see those Potemkin's villages on the map. They are the cities founded by Russian queen Cathreen the great:
Odessa, Kherson, Novorosyisk, Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev, Simferopol, Sevastopol!
THESE ARE the "Potemkin villages" you brainless Westerners were and are so happy to laugh about!
(idiots
)A century after the last European invasion and two centuries after the previous one, Europe have striked again with Napoleon.
The Corsican Monster initially had a sucess and even captured Moscow (which was not a Russian capital back then, the capital was St. Petersburgh, the American version of which is immortalized in "The adventures of Tom Sawyer" by Mark Twain, the American classic now banned or edited in American schools for a frequent using of the word "nigg*r").
Napoleon had 600 000 soldiers vs, 150 000 Russians.
But at the end of the day only a few soldiers out of his 600 000 army have returned back to France and Russians took the Paris in 1814.
A century after Europe did strike again. This time with Hitler, who had a whole Euro economy and manpower (which outnambered Soviets 2 to 1) just to lose again.
We always beat the West!
Always!
And since you never learn, you are striking again, but you will share the same fate, as your predescesors.
That was a short course of the Russian history!
Now back to Ukraine.
The such word as "Ukraine" didn't exist up the 19th century. The whole project of "Ukraine" is a product of Austrian-Hungarian Empire, which had Galicia under its control - the part of Ukraine which was later conqured by Poland in 1921, when they have attacked the Soviet Russia, but returned back by Soviets in 1939.
That was a deciese!
Such thing as Ukraine or the "Kievan Rus" had never existed!
The term "Kievan Rus" was introduced for the first time in the works of Russian historian Michael Maximovich (Михаил Максимович) in 19th century to determine the period, when Kiev was a center of Rus (Russia).
That is a historical term, nothing else!
Ukranians are former Russians. They are Judas, whom have betrayed everything and single word "Ukranian" had appeared in the late 19th century. Before that they were calling themselves "Малороссы"/Malorussians - little Russians/origianal Russians.
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