Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Berzerker]

There are so many stupid things said here, so let's take one by one.

1) The Ukrainians did actually fine without US assistance - with support from several EU (and non EU) countries they managed to trow out several of the invaders.
2) Putin is not gaining land, he has actually lost wast amounts of what was gained in the early days.
3) the people that are dying in wast numbers are russians.
4) Trump don't care anything about Ukrainians or Russians - all he care about is his wallet, so I would not take any advise from him.
5) Do you really think that Ukraine can only survive with US support ?

Then maybe our help is holding them back. I didn't say Putin was gaining ground, only that he will take more if this drags on and he will. The more we press the more he will take, his goal is to remove the threat posed by Kiev and its western backers. That means at the very least a neutral demilitarized Ukraine whereas we want to bleed Russia and dont give a crap about Ukrainians, they are neocon cannon fodder.

The ground is still too muddy, nobody has been doing much the last few months except for Bakhmut. The only significant ground I remember Russia losing or vacating was their retreat from Kiev. Russia invaded with a small force because they thought Zelensky and the USA would make a deal. That was a mistake, the USA and Azov wanted this war. I understand our motive but why does the Ukrainian right wing care if the people of the Donbas dont support their coup? They got Kiev but that wasn't enough, they had to go around killing Ukrainians who didn't support them.

Ukrainians are dying and they will keep dying, I said nothing about Russian dead. Yes, Russians will keep dying too. And for what? Ukraine loses the Donbas anyway, Minsk would have at least kept it in Ukraine. Trump prevented this war from happening so the neocons spent his 4 years arming or training Ukraine's military but they had to make sure he lost in 2020 so they employed the apparatus of the security state to rig the election, they censored people and protected Biden.

Zelensky and his generals were busted stealing our money, $400 million? Course thats peanuts compared to our defense industry getting billions but you're upset by Trump's greed. This war did not happen on his watch. He was the lesser evil in 2016 and 2020. I said Ukraine would negotiate and survive without us.

[Uncle Sparky]

Don't you want a Trump Tower in Moscow?

[BlackCat]

Trump said he'd end the war, not attack Ukraine. As for what Ukraine would do without us, they'd negotiate and survive. But the neocons really do mean for this war to continue, they dont want peace. So Putin will grab more of the country and Ukrainians will keep dying and if people dont like it, they're Putin's puppets too.

There are so many stupid things said here, so let's take one by one.

1) The Ukrainians did actually fine without US assistance - with support from several EU (and non EU) countries they managed to trow out several of the invaders.
2) Putin is not gaining land, he has actually lost wast amounts of what was gained in the early days.
3) the people that are dying in wast numbers are russians.
4) Trump don't care anything about Ukrainians or Russians - all he care about is his wallet, so I would not take any advise from him.
5) Do you really think that Ukraine can only survive with US support ?

[Berzerker]

Since Putin is the aggressor and the US is supporting Ukraine, the only clear way to end the war in a short time frame is to change support to Putin. I don't think that withholding support for Ukraine would end the war at this point.

JM

Trump said he'd end the war, not attack Ukraine. As for what Ukraine would do without us, they'd negotiate and survive. But the neocons really do mean for this war to continue, they dont want peace. So Putin will grab more of the country and Ukrainians will keep dying and if people dont like it, they're Putin's puppets too.

[BlackCat]

Since Putin is the aggressor and the US is supporting Ukraine, the only clear way to end the war in a short time frame is to change support to Putin. I don't think that withholding support for Ukraine would end the war at this point.

JM

Well, if the US should change to support Putin, then they could end up with same sanctions as the EU currently have against Russia - that would hurt a bit both ways.

[Jon Miller]

Since Putin is the aggressor and the US is supporting Ukraine, the only clear way to end the war in a short time frame is to change support to Putin. I don't think that withholding support for Ukraine would end the war at this point.

JM

[Berzerker]

Trump said he'll end the war within 24 hours

Chris Christie called him Putin's puppet

[pchang]

Firing solutions are easier when the are trying to shoot you as opposed to something nearby you are trying to protect.

[Geronimo]

Keep eating Ukrainian sh!t.
Kinzhal travels at 12 000 km per hour a single kinetic energy allows it to penetrate concrete bunker 30 meters deep and then explode.

The Ukranian liars have shown to you an unrecognizable wreckage of unknown origin in a crater of 1,5 meter deep.
If it was Kinzhal, even a part of it traveling at 12000 km ph would make an according crater, IDIOT!!!

That it f+cking physics, moron!!!

Ever heard of Newton's laws?

American idiots are so American idiots!

Wow. Is this the crap they are feeding you guys in Russia? I thought Russians were supposed to be especially well educated?

Think about it Serb.

The space shuttle Columbia was travelling at 27,000 kph when it exploded on reentry and it had way more mass than a kinzhal. How impressive was that crater Serb?

Lower atmosphere absorbs kinetic energy Serb. Ever heard of terminal velocity? Kinzhal's destructive mission is complicated when a patriot missile shreds it into a pile of unrecognizable scrap metal.

I think physics and the weak sauce propaganda you've been getting have become rather estranged.

[Serb]

Keep eating Ukrainian sh!t.
Kinzhal travels at 12 000 km per hour a single kinetic energy allows it to penetrate concrete bunker 30 meters deep and then explode.

The Ukranian liars have shown to you an unrecognizable wreckage of unknown origin in a crater of 1,5 meter deep.
If it was Kinzhal, even a part of it traveling at 12000 km ph would make an according crater, IDIOT!!!

That it f+cking physics, moron!!!

Ever heard of Newton's laws?

American idiots are so American idiots!

[Dinner]

Russia lied and tried to claim it was something special but it never was. It is just an air launch ballistic missile. Thus it is easy for Patriot Pak 3 missiles to shoot down.

[Proteus_MST]

Didn't Serb claim that Russian hypersonic missiles couldn't be intercepted by Western antimissile systems?

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-12-23/h_ddc17f44138416a98c78dc9dbcb80e20

[PLATO]

And you need to check your anal safety before that.

True that! You have shown us how interested in anal activities Russians are (Particularly you!!)

Of course, we all know that Putin is to much of a coward to go to the Hague.

[Serb]

Долбоёбина, блять!

[Serb]

The President of Ukraine was at the International Criminal Court in The Hague. Right in the building making a case against Russia... Putin needs to go there to set the record straight. Under oath. In a glass booth for his safety.

And you need to check your anal safety before that.

Idiot.