Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Berzerker]

They haven't received the jets yet. I am sure the next stuff will be munitions for the jets but it doesn't seem Russia will do much. There are good reasons for that.

https://youtu.be/fWKGYnO0Jf4

I skipped ahead a few times and watched the last ~25 minutes. He insists Russia keeps backing down from red lines. Doesn't this war prove otherwise? The guy wants to escalate the war enough to get Russia to give up or something. I didn't watch it all so I dont know who will be the foot soldiers for this escalation or how he defines victory. Does it mean militarily taking Crimea and the Donbas? I think the people living there should decide their future, not the people attacking them for 8 years.

That would indeed be a strategic defeat for Russia, but it aint gonna happen. Russia will take more of the Donbas and perhaps Odesa and a land bridge eastward. When Ukraine's military runs low on bodies for the meat grinder Russia will take even more ground followed by regime change. No way will Putin let Nato stay in control to continue proxy wars.

[Jon Miller]

I hope that the Ukrainian counteroffensive goes gangbusters.

JM

[Jon Miller]

Is he a debuster?

JM

[BlackCat]

It looks like APN has been busy - 2 videos in ten days
Well, he claims that Comical Ali has evolved into Comical Russia (and a couple of other funnies) here :

[BeBMan]

Interesting video

Russia has already defeated any possible Ukrainian offensive:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/05/russia-claims-to-have-fought-off-major-ukrainian-offensive-in-donetsk

Also in the article:

Ukraine’s defence minister, Oleksiy Reznikov, posted a message on Twitter on Sunday, quoting from the Depeche Mode song Enjoy the Silence. “Words are very unnecessary They can only do harm,” the tweet said.

Probably doesn't want to admit that Ukraine will collapse in 3 days now.

[Dauphin]

That could so easily be an advert for the next Call of Duty: Modern Warfare.

[BlackCat]

Interesting video

[Dinner]

Interesting word replacement happening there.

[Dinner]

Now that Ukraine has received F16s, do you think they will ask for bunker buster bombs?

JM

They haven't received the jets yet. I am sure the next stuff will be munitions for the jets but it doesn't seem Russia will do much. There are good reasons for that.

https://youtu.be/fWKGYnO0Jf4

[EPW]

The Pentagon will likely filibuster the transfer of bunkerbusters unless no robuster solution can be found.

[Geronimo]

Now that Ukraine has received F16s, do you think they will ask for bunker buster bombs?

JM

Supposedly the kinzhals are all designed as bunker busters so I doubt it would be seen as any kind of "escalation"

[Jon Miller]

Now that Ukraine has received F16s, do you think they will ask for bunker buster bombs?

JM

[Geronimo]

Ok, originally the thread topic was broader than that.

[Dinner]

I believe those were artillery strikes. Again, we are talking missiles here.

[Geronimo]

I was speaking specifically about their missile systems. Their kill chain process is so long and complicated that they cannot hit movable targets in a timely fashion. Thus why Russia is forced to target buildings which do not move. This has meant they have primarily deliberately targeted civilian buildings and infrastructure. Both Bellingcat and Perun have covered this topic in the past.

They are documented to have also blown up a great many trucks disguised as HIMARs with wooden facades. I think those were semi mobile.