Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[PLATO]

Russia will be defeated in Ukraine. If Russia wants to cease to exist in its current form, then it should go nuclear now. That will be the final outcome of a nuclear war. Funny how the world is "sick of us" and we keep getting countries that want to ally with us as Russia has made unwarranted aggression popular again. Russia is losing political traction around the world and having to bribe and beg countries like Iran and North Korea to help it. It seems that what the world is "sick of" is your brutal, murderous, land grabbing dictator.

[PLATO]

To some extent I actually agree with this. Invasion was a pretty stupid way of trying to resolve differences. I guess, in the end, it will end internal divisions in Ukraine...once the Orcs are repelled back to their legally recognized borders. Of course, if Russia was truly interested in peace in the Donbas, they never would have subverted the region 9 years ago. I think it's obvious at this point that reconciliation wasn't the plan.

[PLATO]

It is still true that most of the world's technological advances still come from the U.S. Why do you think there are so many foreign students in U.S. universities? How many millions of foreigners are trying to get into Russian universities? If anything, it is your repressed society that has fallen off. Russia used to be a land of great theoretical thinkers...now, not so much.

[PLATO]

"Wanna be"? LOL. Check again you geopolitical neophyte.

[PLATO]

I get a good laugh every time you call the West "Nazis". If any regime resembles the Nazis, you are the one living in it. As a matter of fact, Modern Russia does resemble the Nazis quite a bit. If you hate Nazis, then you should rebel against your government immediately.

[PLATO]

Sounds like a horrible picture all around. Of course, it is pure fantasy that it mirrors what happened in Ukraine. But don't let me stop you from falling for a brutal, murderous, land grabbing dictator's propaganda. You are an excellent thrall in the system.

[N35t0r]

Read up on Ukrainian history since 2004

So Putin attacked because of Trump, had nothing to do with Biden.

Wouldn't we be asking them to surrender so they dont die? It is never ending war when we go around the world looking to arm fanatics in proxy wars.

Given all the war crimes the Russians are committing in occupied regions, and all the propaganda stating that Ukraine and Ukrainians don't really exist, then surrendering is pretty much either dying or genocide.

[N35t0r]

Sending $500M worth of Bradley's means that exactly zero dollars are being spent (well, some for transportation). The US has already paid for most of what it's sending, and in fact in many cases it is even saving money it would otherwise need to have spent for ongoing maintenance or disposal.

[BeBMan]

Meduza revealed that Putin armed the Nazis. And just recently Reuters found out that he also gave them roles in his presidential apparatus.

[N35t0r]

Russia is also using cluster munitions, so I don't get your anger.

Also, and critically, Ukraine is using cluster munitions in their own country through their own volition. Russia is using cluster munitions while invading another country. Big difference.

Never mind about the millions of mines that you have haphazardly dropped all over the place.

[Berzerker]

To my knowledge we had nothing to do with Putin attacking Ukraine.

Well, I have heard Far Left accusations that his interactions with Trump had encouraged him.

You can't ask people to surrender and die. It is not 'never ending war' for people to defend their country and their lives.

JM

Read up on Ukrainian history since 2004

So Putin attacked because of Trump, had nothing to do with Biden.

Wouldn't we be asking them to surrender so they dont die? It is never ending war when we go around the world looking to arm fanatics in proxy wars.

[Jon Miller]

To my knowledge we had nothing to do with Putin attacking Ukraine.

Well, I have heard Far Left accusations that his interactions with Trump had encouraged him.

You can't ask people to surrender and die. It is not 'never ending war' for people to defend their country and their lives.

JM

[Berzerker]

yup, thats a reason for never ending war

[Jon Miller]

We say we are giving 1 billion (for example). This means that we payed the arms manufacturers 1 billion, but often times what is provided is old equipment that we would store or destroy or was otherwise no longer worth 1 billion (to us). Obviously if we get rid of missiles/etc, then we need to purchase more, and we are purchasing from the arms manufacturers.

If Ukraine could buy on open market, which often they can't, they would probably pay a lot less than 1 billion.

JM

[Berzerker]

Mitch McConnell admitted the quiet part out loud - he says most of that $$$ we're pouring into Ukraine is actually going to US weapons makers (who pay for his elections, no, he didn't admit to that but its true)