Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[BeBMan]

The Surovikin guy is gone, it seems:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/23/russia-removes-sergei-surovikin-as-head-of-aerospace-forces

No info about his actual fate, not seen since June. But maybe they hide him somewhere for the big push south.

[BeBMan]

Also the enemy was shooting back.

[BeBMan]

Ukraine trying to minimize losses? Unbelievable thing that is, never heard in war time. It's almost like they care about lives. Probably think burning through own manpower like Russia does only makes you second best

[Geronimo]

I'm starting to think most of these consumer level closings in Russia are worthless to Ukraine and it's allies except as virtue signaling exercises. This will not impact the Russian economy and the related transfer of capital at liquidation will probably even help the Russian economy and reduce capital outflow.

[PLATO]

The Knights of Nee are not to be trifled with!

[PLATO]

Several actually. Incredibly bad leadership in the military, poorly maintained equipment, outdated equipment, poorly trained conscripted troops, extremely low morale in the military, growing resistance to the war domestically. Just to name a few..

[PLATO]

Bullcrap Berz strikes again. Zelensky clearly said at the beginning of the offensive that they would try to limit casualties. Credible reporting estimates show Ukraine with a positive 3:1 casualty ratio. Russia has zero reserves left in the south (although it was reported that an additional 5000 troops arrived in Mariupol in the last few days). Finally the Russians in Belarus are not moving south because Kyiv is now extremely well defended and the Russian Army in Belarus has yet to develop the combat power to be successful. All these facts are readily available.

[PLATO]

If restraint is using up over 80% of your missile stocks. Or is restraint using them on civilian targets? Hard to tell in the Putinverse

[PLATO]

1st...we don't spend a trillion on weapons every year.
2nd...we out produce the Russians on military hardware.

Both are easy to see if you just do basic research.

[Berzerker]

why is it stupid?

[Berzerker]

You called it a genocide, talking with a refugee who was shelled in a warzone where Ukraine forces attack from civilian areas is not evidence. What did she have to say about the 8 year war in the Donbas? My govt armed Nazis to murder people in Ukraine to provoke this war, dont tell me to stfu and dont cry me a river, Biden wanted this war and he got it. Imagine people supporting that proxy war complaining about this war. Wtf did you expect?

[Berzerker]

Should Kiev control Crimea and the Donbas even if they dont want to be controlled by Kiev?

[Berzerker]

Why is that bullcrap? The point was the circle of trust between the people making the weapons and the politicians getting their kickbacks. Sorry, didn't know you were such a fan of that bullcrap.

[Berzerker]

More separatists getting attacked by a US backed govt?

[Berzerker]

Can you rephrase that to make your point clear?