Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Geronimo]

Biden wanted this war... aint that obvious by now? Yes, Boris showed up in Ukraine for a 1 on 1 with Zelensky to nix the peace deal. Or did he arrive to tell him Biden supported the peace deal? Which one do you think is most likely?

if Biden obviously wanted this war (however we come to that whacky conclusion) why didn't he want the war in Afghanistan? Even if Biden *did* want this war what difference would that make if Putin *didn't* want it?

[Berzerker]

Well, aside from arming fine people in 2014 to kill ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine I can see more dots. But consider that for a minute, if Russia and/or China got control of the Mexican govt and armed "nationalists" to kill people along our border (actually we created the cartels with Joe's drug war) wouldn't people see they are trying to provoke the US into defending those people or attacking their killers or both? Southwest Americans especially would be demanding Biden protect their kin on the other side of the border. Eastern Ukrainians were begging Russia for help and got only enough to
stop Kiev's advance. Putin repeatedly rejected their efforts to leave Ukraine and/or join Russia.

So if we ignore Ukrainian history from 2014-22 and all those moderate Ukrainians constantly hailing cabs we still have the admission of Nato's secy gen that Biden rejected Russia's offer of peace shortly before ramping up an invasion force in the winter of '21-22. And ofc he's done nothing at all to promote peace, instead he blew up a pipeline polluting the Baltic Sea and ramped up the war instead of pursuing peace in the spring of '22. Nope, he sent Boris over to read the riot act to Zelensky days after Russia withdrew from Kiev. Course western media lied about that too, cant have the world thinking peace was knocking at the door and Brandon shot the peacemakers.

What has Biden done to prevent this war? Trump prevented it, why did Biden fail so badly? Trump negotiated peace in Afghanistan and had us scheduled to leave in the spring before the fighting season. Biden comes in and delays the withdrawal into the fighting season, leaves behind a massive arsenal for the Taliban, and gives them control of security in Kabul for the evacuation and we see how that turned out. Biden's competing with Bush for worst president this century. Not surprisingly he was instrumental in lying us into Shrub's invasion of Iraq.

[Ming]

Just sprouting your opinion as usual... with no facts to actually support them.
Please provide your "evidence" that Biden wanted war... Oh, that' right, you can't.. All you can do is make silly assumptions.

[Berzerker]

Are you still pushing that alt right conspiracy theory... Well, I guess you will parrot whatever you see in a video.

Biden wanted this war... aint that obvious by now? Yes, Boris showed up in Ukraine for a 1 on 1 with Zelensky to nix the peace deal. Or did he arrive to tell him Biden supported the peace deal? Which one do you think is most likely?

[BeBMan]

That Tender twitter has clearly stolen what I wrote in post 3112

He added more words

[Ming]

Are you still pushing that alt right conspiracy theory... Well, I guess you will parrot whatever you see in a video.

[Berzerker]

would that be the same 95% avoiding the war?

[Berzerker]

Right, just like Stalingrad was not an attempt to capture the city, just an attempt to pressure Stalin into negotiating. When negotiations broke down, the Nazis retreated.

Also, the one that magically failed when Boris' presence magically turned 95% of Ukrainians against peace with Russia.

well then, Boris' presence wasn't needed

analogies lol

[BlackCat]

That Tender twitter has clearly stolen what I wrote in post 3112

[Geronimo]

I hope I don't have to watch 25 minutes of video to see him say that NATO rejected Ukraine and Russia's draft treaty.

[BeBMan]

According to this the Avdiivka thing is already the best offensive evah:

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1713520368151941558?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1713520368151941558%7Ctwgr%5E0b74bb36614dd5a29172c20d877a1f4b3b4acc00%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.civfanatics.com%2Fthreads%2Frussia-invades-ukraine-the-7th-thread-itch-scratch-it-here.684097%2Fpage-169

No idea how valid this is in detail, but time will tell.

[N35t0r]

Right, just like Stalingrad was not an attempt to capture the city, just an attempt to pressure Stalin into negotiating. When negotiations broke down, the Nazis retreated.

Also, the one that magically failed when Boris' presence magically turned 95% of Ukrainians against peace with Russia.

[Ming]

He doesn't seem irrelevant to you since you are playing the same childish games he does by coming up with silly nicknames and using them in an attempt to insult people that don't agree with him. And I will bet you saw the term BluAnon on some video and simply repeated it in lame attempt to be insulting.

[Berzerker]

Trump is irrelevant, put someone else in his place and Democrats would still have the conspiracy mill in overdrive. Thats what makes it so hilarious when they tell us they need to censor the internet to protect us from misinformation.

[Berzerker]

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