Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[dannubis]

Karma would be that he gets the Prigozhin treatment.

[pchang]

What’s really unbelievable is that he thinks he will live long enough to disrupt the sham election.

[BeBMan]

The guy responsible for downing an airliner thinks Russia is going to have a sham election in 2024. Unbelievable.

Pro-war Russian nationalist Igor Girkin says he wants to run for president


The pro-war Russian nationalist Igor Girkin, who is in custody awaiting trial for inciting extremism, said on Sunday he wanted to run for president even though he understood the March election would be a “sham” with the winner already clear.

Girkin, who is also known by the alias Igor Strelkov, has repeatedly said Russia faces revolution and even civil war unless Vladimir Putin’s military leadership fights the war in Ukraine more effectively.

A former Federal Security Service officer who helped Russia to annex Crimea in 2014 and then to organise pro-Russia militias in eastern Ukraine, Girkin said before his arrest that he and his supporters were entering politics.

“I understand perfectly well that in the current situation in Russia, participating in the presidential campaign is like sitting down at a table to play with card sharps,” Girkin said in a letter published by his account on Telegram.

Girkin said he did not think he would be allowed to take part in the election, but hoped that his attempt to unite patriotic forces would disrupt the Kremlin’s plan for a “sham election” in which “the only winner is known in advance”.

“This is our chance to unite in the face of external and internal threats,” Girkin said in the post, which was titled: “I am going to run.”

The Kremlin spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, said in an interview published on Friday that he hoped Putin would run in the March election for another term as president, a move that would keep Putin in power until at least 2030.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/nov/19/russia-ukraine-war-live-wave-of-drone-attacks-on-kyiv-for-second-night?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-6559dd648f08ee81dbe5b004#block-6559dd648f08ee81dbe5b004

[pchang]

I sense a business opportunity for those willing to impregnate Russian criminals.

[BeBMan]

https://www.rferl.org/amp/russia-air.../32687364.html

Thanks

[Geronimo]

Well no, that is not it. Obama destroyed Libya and shipped their weapons around to various proxies (no surprise surrounding countries saw more violence). Turkey became the main conduit for weapons into N Syria and when this program was active ISIS conquered half of Syria. When asked about arming terrorists Obama said they were moderate rebels and reporters went back to sleep. Trump ended the policy (and Mad Dog Mattis resigned) and within a year ISIS had lost virtually all its territory. Now for some reason you interpret Jake's comment to Hillary about AQ on our side as nothing at all. I see it as proof we helped AQ because they're on our side and ISIS took half the country under Obama's tutelage. I'd be defensive too if I voted for war criminals.

that makes absolutely no sense. None of it. Since you won't accept any analogies I'm not sure how to show you that your logic it's demonstrably invalid. Maybe i'll just leave you to believe that there is a 1:1 relation between the success of our declared enemies and how much funding we give to them.

[Berzerker]

February 12, 2012 - An email from Jake Sullivan to Hillary: 'Al Qaeda is on our side in Syria' - The Clinton Foundation Timeline

That's it isn't it? How the hell does it make more sense to imagine that Jake meant to say that the US was arming and supplying ISIL and planned to do so in the future rather than expressing satisfaction that one of the US enemies was publicly declaring hostility to another of its enemies? It's not hard to tell. read the damn email. There is nothing whatsoever besides taking the phrase totally out of context to support your assertion that the US funneled arms to ISIL but that fits your narrative so you run with it and spam it out into every other conversation about the topic.

Well no, that is not it. Obama destroyed Libya and shipped their weapons around to various proxies (no surprise surrounding countries saw more violence). Turkey became the main conduit for weapons into N Syria and when this program was active ISIS conquered half of Syria. When asked about arming terrorists Obama said they were moderate rebels and reporters went back to sleep. Trump ended the policy (and Mad Dog Mattis resigned) and within a year ISIS had lost virtually all its territory. Now for some reason you interpret Jake's comment to Hillary about AQ on our side as nothing at all. I see it as proof we helped AQ because they're on our side and ISIS took half the country under Obama's tutelage. I'd be defensive too if I voted for war criminals.

[Berzerker]

Hmm... I'm not one to throw accusations of treason around lightly given its limited definition in our constitution, but the USA declared war on terrorism and Obama and Biden were arming the terrorists.

[Berzerker]

then why did Putin spend 8 years trying to avoid this 'land grab'?

[pchang]

https://www.rferl.org/amp/russia-air-force-commander-dead/32687364.html

[BeBMan]

Haven't heard about something with generals recently, what is it referring to?

[pchang]

Ukraine army is so good, they now kill retired generals (as long as they criticize the Russian Air Force.

[BlackCat]

Yep, the danish word for it is "frontudretning", an euphemism for "that pesky enemy has yet again made holes in our nice frontline - lets use a nicer word than retreat/flee from them so we can get a straight and orderly front again" - ordnung muß sein

[BeBMan]

Russia news/propaganda appears to be in disarray. Retreat from Kherson: did they or didn't they?

Russia does nevah retreat! At best it does regroup.

Does anybody know the term Frontbegradigung? It became very popular in 1944-45, albeit with a special meaning....

[Geronimo]

I think the email was from Jake Sullivan to Hillary and he said AQ was on our side in Syria. But lets recap what happened, we destroyed Libya and shipped their weapons to Ukraine and Turkey to arm Azov and ISIS. Our ambassador was killed at one of our shipping points at Benghazi and Hillary blamed a Florida preacher for the deaths. So that was back around 2014 and ISIS spent the next 2-3 years taking half of Syria. Trump shut off the weapons in 2017 and ISIS was effectively gone within months.

"AQ is on our side in Syria"

We armed terrorists to destroy Syria. What evidence do you have showing this didn't happen? Barack said they were moderate rebels, no really.

February 12, 2012 - An email from Jake Sullivan to Hillary: 'Al Qaeda is on our side in Syria' - The Clinton Foundation Timeline

That's it isn't it? How the hell does it make more sense to imagine that Jake meant to say that the US was arming and supplying ISIL and planned to do so in the future rather than expressing satisfaction that one of the US enemies was publicly declaring hostility to another of its enemies? It's not hard to tell. read the damn email. There is nothing whatsoever besides taking the phrase totally out of context to support your assertion that the US funneled arms to ISIL but that fits your narrative so you run with it and spam it out into every other conversation about the topic.