Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[BeBMan]

The word "завоевание" (zavoevanie) in russian has a broader meaning than just "conquest". It may also mean "achievement".

gains, achievements...

Thank you, berZ

[Ming]

Yawn... so what. Simple distraction at best.
Why is Putin killing, raping, destroying town and lives of the people you claim he's saving?
Oh that's right, it's a land grab and he doesn't actually care about the people.
But keep saying NAZI, like that makes his war crimes and illegal invasion OK.
Your hero isn't a hero.

[Berzerker]

The word "завоевание" (zavoevanie) in russian has a broader meaning than just "conquest". It may also mean "achievement".

gains, achievements...

[Ming]

You keep ignoring the illegal invasion, and Putin killing all the people you claim he was saving in a pure land grab.
But keep bringing up Nazi's...

[Berzerker]

Was arming Nazis to kill Ukrainians legal?

https://youtu.be/t1ynZH3J4yM

7 minutes in Glenn Greenwald discusses Zelenky's peace deal

reminds me of the scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail where King Arthur dismembers the Black Knight who doesn't know when to quit

[Ming]

And Putin illegally invaded another county and his soldiers killed and raped those he claimed to be defending, while destroying their towns and lives.
You keep skipping over that part

[Berzerker]

We are not arming Russia, we armed Nazis to kill Ukrainian protesters.

[Ming]

You always ignore Putin's ILLEGAL invasion which has killed thousands of those you claim he was protecting. His soldiers raped the women and destroyed their towns and lives. And all you can say is Biden this and Biden that.

Putin is expanding his empire. That's all there is to it. He doesn't give a damn about any body but the empire. No matter how many Russian and Ukrainians die, he won't give up an inch of land he has illegally taken.
Your Hero.

[Berzerker]

Joe Biden let Ukrainian Nazis murder an American citizen and journalist

[Berzerker]

Thanks for proving my point. This is a land grab by Putin, pure and simple. His troops keep killing and raping the people you claim he's protecting. He doesn't give a damn about the people, only the territory. Right from Putin's mouth... he's a conqueror. The real heroes are those that are trying to stop this illegal invasion by Putin.

He was responding to Ukraine's 10 pt peace deal requiring Russia leave Ukraine entirely without concessions, that would mean abandoning the people of the Donbas to Nazis. That aint happening.

[Berzerker]

To Berz... about 7,000 dead Ukrainians is considered small.

Compared to the 20k in Gaza in 3 months, yes. Now do you have a link showing it was Russia who killed those people? That was a civil war between Ukrainians, Russia got involved twice in 2014-15 when the Donbas was being overrun by Nazis. In 2019 the Azov commander identified protesters as the enemy, not Russians. Kiev and Washington killed most of the civilians in the war, not Russia.

[Ming]

They've been taking land from Ukraine... conquests. And? Putin wont be returning the Donbas to Kiev without major concessions and guarantees for the people living there. You know, basically the same deal they were offering years ago and early '22. The people of the Donbas resisting the Nazis are the heroes. The "protesters"... The protesters at war with our Nazis. Straight from Zelensky's mouth in a moment of unbridled honesty. Azov refused to disarm and withdraw because they were fighting protesters.

Thanks for proving my point. This is a land grab by Putin, pure and simple. His troops keep killing and raping the people you claim he's protecting. He doesn't give a damn about the people, only the territory. Right from Putin's mouth... he's a conqueror. The real heroes are those that are trying to stop this illegal invasion by Putin.

[Ming]

To Berz... about 7,000 dead Ukrainians is considered small.

[Berzerker]

From Putin's own mouth... ""As for this negotiation process, it is an attempt to encourage us to abandon our conquests from the past year and a half,"
See Berz... even he see's it as a conquest. But feel free to continue to make him your hero. I guess you support conquests.

They've been taking land from Ukraine... conquests. And? Putin wont be returning the Donbas to Kiev without major concessions and guarantees for the people living there. You know, basically the same deal they were offering years ago and early '22. The people of the Donbas resisting the Nazis are the heroes. The "protesters"... The protesters at war with our Nazis. Straight from Zelensky's mouth in a moment of unbridled honesty. Azov refused to disarm and withdraw because they were fighting protesters.

[Berzerker]

My "analogy"?? Berz. OMG. it's called "standards". You know. The kind of thing you're supposed to apply uniformly and without bias? If you regard application of uniform standards as "analogy" to be avoided it's no wonder you have developed such an effed up world view.

It's also worth noting that given Gaza's birthrate of more than 27 births per 1000 vs Ukraine's birthrate of 9 births per thousand that we could expect the Gazan population at the end of 2023 and 2024 to be substantially higher than in 2022 while the population of Ukraine will be substantially reduced in 2022, less still in 2023 and lower still in 2024. In light of this, which campaign can seriously be construed as genocide?

Yes, your analogy. You compared the attitudes and motives of Russians toward the people of the Donbas with that of Zionists toward Gazans. Even after nearly a decade of war in the Donbas the number of civilians killed by Russia is small, how many dead in Gaza in 3 months? And its obvious from the Israeli plan of attack they are ethnically cleansing Gaza, the bombing of the north was not meant to kill Hamas, it was designed to end civilization in the north and move people south. Is the birthrate in Gaza still that high?