Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Bereta_Eder]

Also the poor people of ukraine are not nazis. nit in donbass not in anywhere


putin just destroyed a country that DARED to dream that it MIGHT be free

[Bereta_Eder]

russia is 10 times more destroyed becasueit is rendered into oblivion

[Berzerker]

And Putin is your hero because he invaded another country and killed and raped the people you claim he was protecting.
What a guy.
But I guess if you scream Nazi over and over again, Putin is the good guy. Guess what, he's a war criminal, and doesn't give a damn about the people... only the land.

Its a tough choice, Putin or Nazis. Nah, this is easy. The people of the Donbas have the natural right to defend themselves and they exercised that right when Kiev sent a Nazi army to kill them. Do you believe the millions of people in eastern Ukraine should be free(r) to govern themselves? Zelensky did in '19 when he took office... The Nazis disagreed, they were at war with "protesters". Not Russian little green men or Putin, they were at war with Ukrainians protesting the right wing coup that drove their democratically elected leader from office in '14. But hey, democracy, right?

And the defense? No coup, no Nazis, no peace efforts... The Ghost of Kiev saved Ukraine and evacuating children from battlefields is a war crime.

Can we let the people of the Donbas self-govern? If Russia did withdraw what would happen? Everyone smiles and shakes hands or the Nazis slaughter the protesters? Thats how this all began and the west will put Azov in charge of the Donbas with Nato missiles on the Russian border. I know how we'd react if Russia was setting up missiles on our border.

[Ming]

Again... ignoring the fact that "your cure" was FAR worse than the disease. And that the "cure" wasn't really a cure, just an excuse by Putin to steal more Ukrainian land again.
But again, you continue to make Putin the hero here, even though he has destroyed the lives of those you claim he was "trying" to save.

[Berzerker]

10s of millions died in WW II to stop the Nazis with the bulk of the victims being Russian. You still haven't shown how many civilians were killed by Russia and we already know Kiev was using civilians as shields which is a war crime, not evacuating children from battlefields. The absurdity and hypocrisy of western propaganda is hard to ignore but Democrats and Republicans keep finding ways. Meanwhile the Gaza death toll is climbing fast as Bibi tells Joe to buzz off like Azov told Zelensky.

Estonian politician is very upset, he wants Ukrainian men who fled the war to be sent back to fight. He called them cowards. I dont know, maybe they just dont wanna tell eastern Ukrainians how to live. I sure dont, why would I want to arm Nazis so they can? Ya'll should youtube videos of these people we've been arming. I saw interviews with Right Sector people after the Odessa massacre, they're murderous fanatics and we unleashed them on Ukrainians.

[Ming]

You always forget to mention the Nazi Russians... The Wagner group was full of them.
There are more Nazi's fighting for Russia than Ukraine. But I know how anti Nazi you are... oh, but the Russians are your hero.
Go figure.

[Geronimo]

He was responding to Ukraine's 10 pt peace deal requiring Russia leave Ukraine entirely without concessions, that would mean abandoning the people of the Donbas to Nazis. That aint happening.

Berz, most of the Donetsk oblast has remained in Ukrainian hands throughout the special military operation. if Azov will move in and attack the people of the Donbas if Russia leaves why isn't azov doing that in the Donbas under their control already? it's odd that the most thoroughly flattened depopulated areas in the Donbas are the ones Russia has 'liberated'. It's also odd that when Ukraine has re-liberated parts of Ukraine from Russian control the before and after damage comparisons typically reveal negligible damage between before and after Ukraine moved back in especially in areas as around Kharkiv where Ukraine recaptured them in a surprise operation. The history of the war shows Russia demolishes the entire town and moves in while Ukraine focuses on counter force attacks against the Russian military.
​The Russian Military has been the Nazis and at least since 2021 Azov have been the anti-nazi liberators.

[Berzerker]

Berz, most of the Donetsk oblast has remained in Ukrainian hands throughout the special military operation. if Azov will move in and attack the people of the Donbas if Russia leaves why isn't azov doing that in the Donbas under their control already? it's odd that the most thoroughly flattened depopulated areas in the Donbas are the ones Russia has 'liberated'. It's also odd that when Ukraine has re-liberated parts of Ukraine from Russian control the before and after damage comparisons typically reveal negligible damage between before and after Ukraine moved back in especially in areas as around Kharkiv where Ukraine recaptured them in a surprise operation. The history of the war shows Russia demolishes the entire town and moves in while Ukraine focuses on counter force attacks against the Russian military.
​The Russian Military has been the Nazis and at least since 2021 Azov have been the anti-nazi liberators.

We just watched Azov attacking the Donbas for 8 years with our weapons and we have video evidence of Zelensky in '19 trying and failing to disarm and withdraw them and the officer refused because of the protesters (and because the US backs Azov over Zelensky). Thats who our heroes were killing, protesters. Azov are our heroes, right? They did lead the charge against the 'enemy' in '14, no? Why has our propaganda machine tried so hard to hide our heroes from us, thats an outrage. We need a monument to Azov's heroes, how about Bandera Street in a Jewish neighborhood in NYC? We can invite Jon Stewart as master of ceremonies. The areas under Azov's control have long been depopulated of protesters (who do you think Azov has been killing all this time?). The resistance outside their control will be targeted by Azov if Russia withdraws and refuses to help. So Azov attacked the Donbas in '14 to liberate it from Russia in '21.

[Ming]

And the Russian Nazi's invaded Ukraine and killed, raped and destroyed the towns of the people you claim they were defending.
But keep talking about the Nazi's on one side only. Because I guess you don't mind Nazi's as long as they are Russian.
GOT IT.

[Berzerker]

Russia asked to join Nato... The US declined. Now why do you suppose we did that? Didn't want Russian resources fueling Europe.

[Ming]

I think you missed out on the part where Russia was/is supplying resources to Europe all ready.
Or maybe that the primary purpose of NATO these days is to protect Europe from Russia.
But keep watching those online videos.

And again, what about those Russian Nazi's?

[Berzerker]

Was/is... neocons want was, not is... Hows that pipeline doing, Joe cares for the environment. The only Russian Nazi I saw was that Wagner guy on the plane with Prig. In Ukraine the children hail cabs when soldiers drive by.

[Geronimo]

Russia asked to join Nato... The US declined. Now why do you suppose we did that? Didn't want Russian resources fueling Europe.

The US didn't decline. The pushback was all from Russia's neighbors already in NATO. The US *did* decline to pressure cajole or otherwise convince Russia's neighbors to committing to a speedy acceptance on Russia's special terms. If you recall, Russia insisted that its accession to NATO involve immediate accession of Russia without any of the official process setout in NATOs charter and structural agreements other than the immediate vote for membership. I certainly think the US should have run with it. The US could have threatened to leave if Russia were not accepted. That would probably have been enough to make it work. However the Bush and Obama administrations were both cowards and never pushed for NATO to make the request by Russia for special treatment in joining NATO work. That's not at all the same as "the US declined". The US likely, almost certainly in fact, would have voted yes but the vote would never even occur because massive opposition to Russia's demand for special treatment in joining by the newer members who all had to jump through the painful official hoops and by almost all of Russia's neighbors who frankly publicly didn't trust Russia at all. Russia never joining NATO was certainly a shame but the US was hardly the obstacle. Of course Putin is seldom surprised and it's quite possible he knew his demands would be rejected and his request was insincere but the US probably could have made him prove it.

[Broken_Erika]

Putin stokes tensions with US, declares 1867 sale of Alaska 'illegal'

A brief history of how Alaska became part of the United States: Russia sold it in 1867 for $7.2 million, a deal considered to be mutually beneficial at that time. Nowadays, Alaska, a detached piece of the USA, stands as one of the fifty states constituting the country and has been an integral part of it for over 150 years. Nonetheless, the Russians aren't content with this.​
​https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...4a58b777&ei=18

[pchang]

Molon labe

[Ming]

It's a standard ploy... make up lies, and then try to steal more land.
Like they did in Crimea and then even more of Ukraine once they got away with it the first time.

[Geronimo]

It's a standard ploy... make up lies, and then try to steal more land.
Like they did in Crimea and then even more of Ukraine once they got away with it the first time.

How incredibly effing stupid would be they have to be to actually do anything with his absurd claim. I have no idea in this case why he's talking about this and hope someone comes up with a plausible explanation.