Jan. 6th Insurrection Conspiracy Theory totally debunked.

[Kidlicious]

I don't know why Kid even bothers logging in when he seems to despise everyone here.

Some people actually argue with people that lie.

[Ming]

Some people actually argue with people that lie.

And that's why many of us post in your threads...

[N35t0r]

This is not an argument though.


Also, just throwing this in here:
If in order to stop one illegal/fake vote from being cast you prevent two otherwise valid votes, then you're worse than you were before.

[Kidlicious]

This is not an argument though.


Also, just throwing this in here:
If in order to stop one illegal/fake vote from being cast you prevent two otherwise valid votes, then you're worse than you were before.

No one is actually preventing any votes.

[N35t0r]

No one is actually preventing any votes.

You mean that when voter turnout goes down after such measures, it's just a funny coincidence?

[Kidlicious]

You mean that when voter turnout goes down after such measures, it's just a funny coincidence?

You mean you actually think people are being prevented from voting?

[N35t0r]

Prevent != Forbid

[Ming]

You mean you actually think people are being prevented from voting?

Typical alt right propaganda...
No... All legal voters can still vote.
However, making it harder for poorer people to vote is pretty much the same thing as preventing them.
If they have to travel far distances... take the time to get a ID... pay for day care... These have the same effect as taking away their right to vote.
We should be doing everything in our power to make it easier for people to enjoy their constitutional right to vote, not making it harder.
All this TRUMP BS that mail in ballots and drop boxes led to massive voter fraud in 2020 is just that... TOTAL BS.
Trump and his minions are trying to solve a problem that DOESN'T EXIST.
THERE WAS NO MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD in the last election... FACT.

Let's make it easier for ALL AMERICANS to vote... not harder.
But I can see why Trump and his sheep don't want minorities and poor people to vote... Because they likely won't vote for him.

But keep pushing the fraud BS Kid... but at the end of the day, it is just total BS.

[Kidlicious]

However, making it harder for poorer people to vote is pretty much the same thing as preventing them.
If they have to travel far distances... take the time to get a ID... pay for day care... These have the same effect as taking away their right to vote.
.

No one believes this. You are just repeating propaganda. And they told you to say the reverse is propaganda.

[Ming]

Only Trump and his minions still believe that there was massive fraud last election and that big changes are needed to stop it in the future... Which is all just total BS and Trump propaganda... Only morons still believe it.

But it's NOT propaganda that making it harder for people to vote has a far greater impact on poorer people. FACT.

But keep spreading Trumps Lies... we know his minions will believe ANYTHING he tells them to.

[Kidlicious]

The funniest thing is that all the rural counties are red, probably 95%. Don't you think Republicans would be worried about this if it were a real issue? You will believe anything, or so it seems.

[Kidlicious]

Only Trump and his minions still believe that there was massive fraud last election and that big changes are needed to stop it in the future... Which is all just total BS and Trump propaganda... Only morons still believe it.

But it's NOT propaganda that making it harder for people to vote has a far greater impact on poorer people. FACT.

But keep spreading Trumps Lies... we know his minions will believe ANYTHING he tells them to.

No one is trying to make it harder to vote. This is how it's been for a long time. Give it up.

[Ming]

Lets see... limiting mail in ballots, limiting or removing drop boxes, Voter Id's, limiting the days of voting...
I guess only MORONS would think that they aren't trying to make it harder to vote.
But keep believing the lies Trump tells you...

Have a nice day.

[Ming]

With many of the "new" practices in place during the pandemic, we had record levels of voting. More AMERICANS voted.
And NO MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD HAPPENED! FACTS.

But I guess in your mind, taking those away won't change the level of voters....
Yeah, RIGHT

I guess you will believe anything.,

[Kidlicious]

Lets see... limiting mail in ballots, limiting or removing drop boxes, Voter Id's, limiting the days of voting...
I guess only MORONS would think that they aren't trying to make it harder to vote.
But keep believing the lies Trump tells you...

Have a nice day.

Nope. They are making it harder to cheat.

Republicans don't need to baby people. We turn out and win elections the fair way.

Nov. 7, 2021, 7:22 AM CST
By Dante Chinni
WASHINGTON — Republicans had a satisfying Election Day last week, particularly in Virginia, where Glenn Youngkin captured the governor's mansion after former President Donald Trump lost the state by 10 points in 2020. There were a number of factors behind that big swing; one of the biggest was the GOP's strength in the rural parts of the state.

One question going into the election was whether rural voters, who were so crucial to Trump's coalition, would show up. Tuesday provided a resounding answer.

Republicans didn't just run up the margins in the rural parts of Virginia; they cranked up turnout, as well.

President Joe Biden lost rural Virginia by about 6 points last year. The loss wasn't a surprise; Republicans generally do better in rural communities than Democrats. But that was a close margin.

Tuesday, one year later, Democrat Terry McAuliffe lost the rural vote in Virginia by 27 points in his bid to be governor. The margin was four times larger than Biden's.

And the size of the loss has impacts elsewhere in the state. Even if Democrats rightly think of themselves as the party of urban America, margins matter. Making up a 26-point rural deficit in cities and suburbs is much harder than making up a 6-point gap.

Adding to the Democrats' problems in Virginia was just how revved up voters in rural communities were. They turned out in big numbers.

In 2020, rural voters produced 16 percent of the total ballots in Virginia. In 2021, those voters produced 19 percent of the total.

The 3-point difference might not sound like a lot, but it adds up to tens of thousands of votes. The impact of the bigger Republican rural margins grows as the rural slice of the pie gets bigger, and the slice got quite a bit bigger Tuesday.

Consider the impact in the 20 least populous communities in Virginia (that includes counties and independent cities). In 2017, Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam lost them, but not by the same margins and not with the same turnout as last week.

Four years ago, Northam won the governor's race comfortably by 9 points. Big margins in the northern part of the state were key, but even in smaller communities, he kept it relatively close.
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On Tuesday, McAuliffe lost those same counties by 27 points, but because of higher turnout, his net loss in the vote was more than twice as great. Youngkin netted more than 16,000 votes out of those counties.

In fact, in those 20 counties, McAuliffe won slightly more votes than Northam did in 2017. He got 109 percent of Northam's vote total. But in the same counties, Youngkin did far better. He won 141 percent of the votes Republican Ed Gillespie won in 2017.

Those kinds of numbers were replicated across the state in the south and the west, where there are rural communities that tend to vote Republican.

None of this means that the rural surge is the sole reason for the outcome. Across the state, in fact, Youngkin seemed to do a better job of bringing out Trump voters than McAuliffe did at bringing out Biden voters. And if McAuliffe had just drawn more votes out of Northern Virginia and gotten Democratic turnout levels closer to 2020, he might have eked out a win.

But after last year, many political observers wondered about rural turnout in a post-Trump world. Would those voters come out without their man in the White House? The answer, for this year anyway, sure looks like a yes. And for Democrats, that's a problem.

It's fine being the party of urban (and much of suburban) America, but there's a difference between losing rural areas by 10 or 15 as opposed to 25 or 30 points. The latter leaves much less margin for error.

And if rural voters are charged up the way they were Tuesday, Democrats are going to need make those places at least a little more competitive.

[Kidlicious]

Populist revolt coming your way!