First US Presidential Debate Thread 2020

[Kidlicious]

That was kind of a joke. Biden shouldn't have said that they are only an idea. They avoid organization for legal reasons, but they are a very bad problem.

The Proud Boys are organized because they aren't criminals. They are pro-cop.

[Ming]

This is one of the dumber talking points making the rounds right now. Where are the BLM/Antifa riots happening? Mostly in blue cities. Why? Because that is where they get away with their violence, arson, looting, and, yes, murder. It is far left Democrat DA’s who refuse to charge the rioters no matter which felonies they commit. BLM/Antifa did try to do the same thing in red cities and largely they got arrested and ended up in jail or prison so they gave up on rioting in those red locations. To help Democrat mayors Trump repeatedly offered federal law enforcement help and to a man (at least until last week in Minnesota) the Democrats always arrogantly refused to accept Federal assistance.

It wasn’t until Democrats saw that the riots were hurting their election chances that they decided to actually start enforcing the law and cracking down on rioting criminals. To this day Biden and the Democrats continue to lie and attempt to gaslight the American people about BLM/Antifa because they know this is the armed section of the far left which Democrats want to keep as their force for political violence. That is just the truth. Thus why Democrats openly promise more riots and violence if they don’t win the election.

Typical far right BS...

First... Why is it happening in mostly Blue Cities... BECAUSE MOST BIG CITIES are run by Democrats because Republicans usually don't do well in large metropolitan areas.
Second... Many didn't want a serious crack down on protesters because they didn't want to inflame the situation.
Also the reason why they didn't want Trump sending in federal troops into their cities.
And your typical nonsense that Democrats want to keep this "force" for political violence is one of the dumbest talking points I've ever heard.
And as far as promising violence and actually promoting it if they don't win the election, point your finger at the real problem... Trump, the man that says he has to "wait and see" before he accepts the election results.

And recent studies have shown that more people have died from Right wing groups than Left wing groups over the years, something that never seems to get mentioned.

[dannubis]

It never ceases to amaze me that after 4 years of corruption, nepotism, mismanagement and general asshattery you still find people who support the monkey in chief...

[Kidlicious]

Typical far right BS...

First... Why is it happening in mostly Blue Cities... BECAUSE MOST BIG CITIES are run by Democrats because Republicans usually don't do well in large metropolitan areas.
Second... Many didn't want a serious crack down on protesters because they didn't want to inflame the situation.
Also the reason why they didn't want Trump sending in federal troops into their cities.
And your typical nonsense that Democrats want to keep this "force" for political violence is one of the dumbest talking points I've ever heard.
And as far as promising violence and actually promoting it if they don't win the election, point your finger at the real problem... Trump, the man that says he has to "wait and see" before he accepts the election results.

And recent studies have shown that more people have died from Right wing groups than Left wing groups over the years, something that never seems to get mentioned.

If you think enforcing the law causes more crime you are either an extremist or you just fall for their bs. Everywhere the law is enforced has less riots than where it isn't enforced.

[Ming]

And you ignore the fact that escalating police response can sometimes make the situation worse and result in more overall violence on both sides, especially when the protests are about police violence in the first place.

[Kidlicious]

When did that ever happen?

[-Jrabbit]

The Proud Boys are organized because they aren't criminals. They are pro-cop.

Yeah, this sounds like a lovely group of peace-loving guys:

“I got shivers,” Andrew Anglin, the founder of the neo-Nazi website the Daily Stormer, wrote Wednesday. “I still have shivers. He is telling the people to stand by. As in: Get ready for war.”

They are racist thugs. Or, as Wikipedia puts it: "The Proud Boys is a far-right neo-fascist male-only organization that promotes and engages in political violence."

[Kidlicious]

"Wikipedia"

They aren't white supremacist. You are downplaying white supremacists by accusing everyone of being white supremacist. You should be ashamed of yourself for helping extremists like that.

You realize that you are quoting a neo-nazi, right? To bad that's not a joke. "Stand-by" means stand-by at what the Proud Boys do. They don't initiate violence. They don't start fights. But if you start a fight we finish it. And yes I include myself. I don't expect someone like you to defend America from Antifa though.

[-Jrabbit]

Your post is just one lie after another. It's a bit tiresome to go through the usual routine of pointing out what I actually posted. I said the Proud Boys are racist thugs, and I stand by that. They are clearly pro-violence; they consider it a rite of passage for members. The claim not to be white supremacists, but hey, they also claim they don't masturbate. Their long record of initiating violence is a matter of public record, and they are regarded as a hate group by the SPLC and the FBI. They are, in short, wannabe domestic terrorists. I quoted Anglin to demonstrate the craving the extreme right has for violence, how they promote it, and how they take their cues from Trump. It's no surprise that you sympathize with them.

[BeBMan]

Well, your credibility is on par with Trump's on anything, so zilch.

[Ming]

The Proud Boys describe themselves as “Western chauvinists” and have aligned themselves closely with self-declared neo-Nazis. They are designated as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, while the FBI considers them "an extremist group with ties to white nationalism."

[Kidlicious]

They aren't aligned with any extremists. They are pro-free speech and pro-freedom. They are pro-American. You are getting anti-American, extremist propaganda.

[Ming]

Gee... I guess Kid knows better than the FBI... NOT!
Try again.

[Kidlicious]

Gee... I guess Kid knows better than the FBI... NOT!
Try again.

You mean people like Comey and Wray? It's not that they are ignorant. It's that they are corrupt liars.

[Kidlicious]

From an extremist perspective they are aligned because they are both enemies of Antifa. In reality the Proud Boys are opposed to all extremist groups that are opposed to Americanism.

[Ming]

So Kid is now claiming to be a better expert on these matters than the FBI.
Your response wasn't even a good attempt.
Try again.