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  • #46
    but one thing really wrong today is if you dont agree with the 'other' side... you're immediately labeled a racist or a socialist.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by My Wife Hates CIV View Post
      is this correct?

      Antifa is an anti-fascist and left-wing political movement in the United States comprising an array of autonomous groups that aim to achieve their objectives through the use of both nonviolent and violent direct action rather than through policy reform. A highly decentralized movement, antifa political activists are anti-racists who engage in protest tactics, seeking to combat fascists and racists such as neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other far-right extremists. This may involve digital activism, harassment, physical violence and property damage against those whom they identify as belonging to the far-right.
      Their aim is to cause chaos and destabilize the nation causing a color revolution. That's what they are doing.
      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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      • #48
        if it's really a highly decentralized movement i guess one could say in a sense it's not real.

        but the dems are making an environment where something like that can gain ground. and of course they are doing it to undermine trump.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by My Wife Hates CIV View Post
          if it's really a highly decentralized movement i guess one could say in a sense it's not real.

          but the dems are making an environment where something like that can gain ground. and of course they are doing it to undermine trump.
          The difference is that they aren't a reform movement. They are a chaos causing revolutionary movement.

          They talk about reform, but that's all propaganda.
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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          • #50
            if the dems take power it will be interesting to see how they handle it. i think their tune will change. quietly, but it will change.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

              They're violent revolutionaries. That's who you apologize for, but you claim to be a moderate and you say that Biden always argues in good faith even though he says Antifa isn't real.
              Again, please quote where I have "apologized" for them. Oh, that's right, you can't because I never have.
              And if Biden believes as the Director of FBI does, Anifta as a well organized group doesn't really exist, only people who support those views, he is arguing in good faith

              Keep on Civin'
              RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Ming View Post

                Again, please quote where I have "apologized" for them. Oh, that's right, you can't because I never have.
                And if Biden believes as the Director of FBI does, Anifta as a well organized group doesn't really exist, only people who support those views, he is arguing in good faith
                You're blaming Trump for them rioting when the fact is rioting is what they do. That makes them look good (if anyone believes you).
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by My Wife Hates CIV View Post
                  if it's really a highly decentralized movement i guess one could say in a sense it's not real.

                  but the dems are making an environment where something like that can gain ground. and of course they are doing it to undermine trump.
                  They riot in Portland against the Democrats. They call them fascist. Look how the Democrats there act towards them.
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                  - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                  • #54
                    Trump needs to ignore Biden.
                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

                      You're blaming Trump for them rioting when the fact is rioting is what they do. That makes them look good (if anyone believes you).
                      Makes them look good...
                      I have repeatedly come out as against Violence, Rioting and looting. FACT
                      I have never supported them. FACT
                      But I have indicated that I think Trump's America is one of the causes. That doesn't mean I'm making excuses or supporting them. The country is divided, and Trump is doing his best to keep it that way. And he's doing it to help him get elected. AN OPINION.
                      Keep on Civin'
                      RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                        Trump needs to ignore Biden.
                        Good luck with that... Trump has a history of name calling and bullying of his opponents. It isn't going to happen
                        Keep on Civin'
                        RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                        • #57
                          They will riot against the police if Biden wins. Defunding or reforming police, as Biden proposes will not stop the riots. They don't care about either one, except that defunding will help them riot. But no one stops them from rioting in Portland, Seattle and NYC anyway. They can pretty much riot at will in other cities as well. And that will continue.
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                          • Berzerker
                            #57.1
                            Berzerker commented
                            October 1, 2020, 22:59
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                            nah, they're doing this to hurt Trump... Once Biden wins they'll quiet down
                        • #58
                          Originally posted by Ming View Post

                          Makes them look good...
                          I have repeatedly come out as against Violence, Rioting and looting. FACT
                          I have never supported them. FACT
                          But I have indicated that I think Trump's America is one of the causes. That doesn't mean I'm making excuses or supporting them. The country is divided, and Trump is doing his best to keep it that way. And he's doing it to help him get elected. AN OPINION.
                          This is propaganda. Antifa ideologues are a product of our society for sure, but it has nothing to do with Trump. It has to do with fake news, communist indoctrination in college and ****ty boomer parents. Trump is trying to change all of that. Biden will make it worse.
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                          • #59
                            Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

                            This is propaganda. Antifa ideologues are a product of our society for sure, but it has nothing to do with Trump. It has to do with fake news, communist indoctrination in college and ****ty boomer parents. Trump is trying to change all of that. Biden will make it worse.
                            Gee...now having an opinion is propaganda. NOT
                            Everything you just said is an opinion as well... so isn't that propaganda as well?
                            Keep on Civin'
                            RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                            • #60
                              Originally posted by Ming View Post

                              Gee...now having an opinion is propaganda. NOT
                              Everything you just said is an opinion as well... so isn't that propaganda as well?
                              I'm not criticizing you for having an opinion. I'm saying that your opinion is the opinion that extremists want you to have. In the same way Islamic terrorists want people to have the opinion that their victims are causing them to use terrorism.
                              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                              • -Jrabbit
                                #60.1
                                -Jrabbit commented
                                September 30, 2020, 21:02
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                                In the same way that Trump wants you to mindlessly repeat his lies and propaganda.
                              • ricketyclik
                                #60.2
                                ricketyclik commented
                                October 7, 2020, 03:26
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                                I believe the commonly held belief is that heavy-handed military and economic actions against populations creates a fertile ground for the emergence of terrorism, which is nothing to do with the victims of terrorism.
                              • Kidlicious
                                #60.3
                                Kidlicious commented
                                October 7, 2020, 05:36
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                                Really? Doesn't seem to work that way. Where's all the terrorism now after all these attacks on the terrorists?

                                People don't like terrorists. They like it when you kill them.
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