Wot no coronavirus thread? Part 2

[-Jrabbit]

Maybe, just maybe, things might be a little different for the better IF the dems have not gone after trump everyday for the last 4 years. Can you blame trump for not wanting to work with the dems or believe anything they say?? and the dems are just as bad as repubs. They all lie just as much. still waiting for that russian proof. Now,IF they really get something on trump a lot of people will simply just not believe it. especially if its reported on CNN. CNN, nothing more than a walmart tabloid newspaper. what happened?!?

Well, for one thing, they've succeeded in getting you to change the subject, all on your own, from COVID to Dem-blaming and CNN-bashing. Another brainwash victim in our midst.

Look, I agree that all politicians are lying scum. But demonizing mainstream press is just a deepfake method of shifting focus away from the Fox/OANN/QAnon circus of lies. And saying "Dems also suck" does not make this administration's behavior OK.

Focus.

[My Wife Hates CIV]

Maybe, just maybe, things might be a little different for the better IF the dems have not gone after trump everyday for the last 4 years. Can you blame trump for not wanting to work with the dems or believe anything they say?? and the dems are just as bad as repubs. They all lie just as much. still waiting for that russian proof. Now,IF they really get something on trump a lot of people will simply just not believe it. especially if its reported on CNN. CNN, nothing more than a walmart tabloid newspaper. what happened?!?

[pchang]

Or more specifically flock mentality since they are sheeple.

[BeBMan]

At least Trump supporters have already herd mentality.

[-Jrabbit]

It's a technical term. You don't get to just use it to mean whatever you want it to.

[-Jrabbit]

You are totally just talking out of your ass, Kid.

[BlackCat]

I'm just predicting that new cases are going to decrease.

Ah, so you believe that the Democrat way are the right way to choose while the trumpist way are the straight way to hell - an improvement

[Kidlicious]

I'm just predicting that new cases are going to decrease.

[BlackCat]

Actually... there is "some" percentage of the population that "seems" immune to the current covid virus, even though they have never had this strain.

Some people did have defenses against the plage and other nasty stuff and survived back in the old ages, but claiming that it's a reasonable way of handling something not all are immune to is kind of idiotic

[Ming]

That is BS. You don't get immune without antibodies - that would be against all known knowledge about viruses.

Actually... there is "some" percentage of the population that "seems" immune to the current covid virus, even though they have never had this strain. Some think it's due to exposure to other viruses in the past that offer some immunity to the current virus.
And there are some other theories out their as well.
Research has been done in this area, but most are only directional in nature, and no real conclusions have been reached except for that some people do seem to be immune.

[Kidlicious]

A Large percentage???? Please provide some REAL scientific data to back that claim up.
I guess it depends what you consider a large percentage... the best I've ever seen is about 20%. And that isn't nearly enough to get us to herd status quickly since many won't even consider taking a vaccine.

No one knows what the percentage is, because we don't know what it might be or how to measure it. This guy is calling it dark immunity, like dark matter because there is no way to observe it but we see the effect.

https://medium.com/@karlfriston/immunological-dark-matter-b48e20bba9ea

The percentage of people with dark immunity depends on particular populations. That's why you see very little outbreak in places like Japan.

[BlackCat]

I'm just calling it herd immunity because a large percentage don't have antibodies but are immune.

That is BS. You don't get immune without antibodies - that would be against all known knowledge about viruses.

[Kidlicious]

This is one theory about the hidden immunity, but it could be something that we don't understand at all.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200716-the-people-with-hidden-protection-from-covid-19

[Ming]

because a large percentage don't have antibodies but are immune. There isn't a way to know how many there are.

A Large percentage???? Please provide some REAL scientific data to back that claim up.
I guess it depends what you consider a large percentage... the best I've ever seen is about 20%. And that isn't nearly enough to get us to herd status quickly since many won't even consider taking a vaccine.

[Kidlicious]

You realize that the formula for herd immunity is 1-1/R0 -> so for Covid-19 this means at least 75% of the population have to have caught and recovered from the disease. We are nowhere close to that.

I'm just calling it herd immunity because a large percentage don't have antibodies but are immune. There isn't a way to know how many there are. So we don't know how close we are to effective herd immunity.