Wot no coronavirus thread? Part 2

[Kidlicious]

Most MEDICAL EXPERTS agree that wearing a mask and social distancing is the best way to slow down the spread of Covid.
That is NOT extremist. And yet again, the MAJORITY of Americans agree with that position.
The people that refuse to wear masks are the real extremists.

Saying that it's good to wear a mask is not the same as scaring people, which is what the fake news and the Democrats do. And no, not wearing a mask is not extremism. That's absolutely insane.

[Ming]

No. There is a fraction of 1% that you are spreading Covid by not wearing a mask. Scaring people into doing what you want when they most likely don't have Covid is what extremists do.

Most MEDICAL EXPERTS agree that wearing a mask and social distancing is the best way to slow down the spread of Covid.
That is NOT extremist. And yet again, the MAJORITY of Americans agree with that position.
The people that refuse to wear masks are the real extremists.

[Egbert]

I have decided to copy Nero who declared himself the winner of the chariot race in the 67 AD Olympics.

I, the great and wonderful braindead, do hereby declare myself the winner of every debate on the Apolyton Off Topic.

[Kidlicious]

I can not quite agree. People not wearing masks who have symptoms are a grave risk to public health. A person can not be sure he is not a carrier. Such a person will be a spreader of covid.

Allow me to use vaccination as an analogy. You need everyone vaccinated to get the herd immunity for things like polio. If you have people dodging vaccination they are jeopardising herd immunity.

No. There is a fraction of 1% that you are spreading Covid by not wearing a mask. Scaring people into doing what you want when they most likely don't have Covid is what extremists do.

[Egbert]

He said that you don't have to be afraid. That's not the same thing as what you said. They don't want to wear a mask that's their business.

I can not quite agree. People not wearing masks who have symptoms are a grave risk to public health. A person can not be sure he is not a carrier. Such a person will be a spreader of covid.

Allow me to use vaccination as an analogy. You need everyone vaccinated to get the herd immunity for things like polio. If you have people dodging vaccination they are jeopardising herd immunity.

[Kidlicious]

I like what you call "socialised medicine" because that means poor people do not get told to go away and die quietly.

I am glad we have "socialised medicine" in Australia.

And that's probably why you think people need to be scared into doing things that you want them to do, like wear masks indefinitely. There is nothing good about Socialism. It's very bad. Leave people alone.

[Egbert]

Doesn't matter to me. If they smoke then let them pay for it. I'm not for socialized medicine. If you think that's immoral then that's your business, but you don't have a right to free things because there is no such thing as free.

I like what you call "socialised medicine" because that means poor people do not get told to go away and die quietly.

I am glad we have "socialised medicine" in Australia.

[Kidlicious]

If you can persuade somebody not to be afraid of covid then why would they see any reason to take any precautions? Why se a mask or socially distance or anything else?

He said that you don't have to be afraid. That's not the same thing as what you said. They don't want to wear a mask that's their business.

[Kidlicious]

Darwin in action...
Plus, please point out where I ever said "I" was pissed off. Oh, that's right, as usual, you can't.
I did post he was a moron for showing no empathy for those that didn't get the same great treatment he did, and for those that have lost friends and loved ones. Those are the people he is pissing off.

Anyone that thinks he doesn't care about people or are pissed about that watch too much fake news and/or have some sort of psychological problem.

[Kidlicious]

All up cost to poor person for lung cancer in Australia was about US$70 << close enough to free

How much would a patient pay for lung cancer treatment in USA?

Doesn't matter to me. If they smoke then let them pay for it. I'm not for socialized medicine. If you think that's immoral then that's your business, but you don't have a right to free things because there is no such thing as free.

[Ming]

If you want to be afraid of it that's your problem. I am not, and I'm not ashamed of not being afraid.

There's nothing wrong with telling people not to be afraid, but it says a lot that you are pissed off about that.

Darwin in action...
Plus, please point out where I ever said "I" was pissed off. Oh, that's right, as usual, you can't.
I did post he was a moron for showing no empathy for those that didn't get the same great treatment he did, and for those that have lost friends and loved ones. Those are the people he is pissing off.

[Egbert]

If you want to be afraid of it that's your problem. I am not, and I'm not ashamed of not being afraid.

There's nothing wrong with telling people not to be afraid, but it says a lot that you are pissed off about that.

If you can persuade somebody not to be afraid of covid then why would they see any reason to take any precautions? Why se a mask or socially distance or anything else?

[Egbert]

They get treatment. You were claiming that they didn't.

The treatment costs the same. Someone must pay for it either way. There is no free health care, anywhere.

All up cost to poor person for lung cancer in Australia was about US$70 << close enough to free

How much would a patient pay for lung cancer treatment in USA?

[Kidlicious]

I don't think ANYBODY is against Trump getting the best care possible.
What is pissing people off is his whole "It's nothing to be afraid of" BS. People or their loved ones that weren't able to get the same level of care don't want to hear that crap from him.
The fact that he is still down playing it and continuing to put other people at risk just so he can try to get reelected isn't sitting well with anybody except his rabid trumpettes.

If you want to be afraid of it that's your problem. I am not, and I'm not ashamed of not being afraid.

There's nothing wrong with telling people not to be afraid, but it says a lot that you are pissed off about that.

[Kidlicious]

How much would treatment for lung cancer cost in the USA for a person with no insurance?

They get treatment. You were claiming that they didn't.

The treatment costs the same. Someone must pay for it either way. There is no free health care, anywhere.