Trump's Promise

[Ming]

You're spinning leftwing narrative. It's already obvious.

I'm not the one spinning things here... I'm still waiting for all THE FACTS, while you are spinning the right wing narrative

[Kidlicious]

We already have facts. There is probable cause.

[Kidlicious]

This has totally blown up in their faces. Now they are attacking Pelosi again. Did Trump plan this?

[Broken_Erika]

Former Federal Prosecutors Call for Giuliani to Be Disbarred, Possibly Indicted

Reports that President Donald Trump brazenly and repeatedly pressured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to cooperate with Rudy Giuliani in investigating Hunter Biden have led even the more moderate legal experts to suggest that impeachment may be necessary. As the sordid details of Giuliani’s role in the alleged disinformation plot continue to mount, the backlash against the president’s personal lawyer has intensified, with at least one former federal prosecutor calling for him to be disbarred and another suggesting he may have opened himself up to criminally liability.

Giuliani defended himself and Trump on Saturday, claiming that his conduct with regard to the Biden’s and Ukraine was completely legal.

“Whistleblower story, like [Brett] Kavanaugh story, is blowing up,” he tweeted, comparing the situation to the recent allegations against the Supreme Court justice. “Now no mention of money or quid pro quo. So appropriate conduct. Now we must look at Biden Family pattern of corruption of selling his public offices for 5 decades. Pattern of corruption enabled by Swamp.”

But while the president did not directly threaten to withhold U.S. funds from Ukraine absent cooperation, the administration did put a hold on $250 million in military assistance for the country after Trump personally ordered a review of the aid package.

Mimi Rocah, a former federal prosecutor with the Southern District of New York, responded to Giuliani by comparing him to a mafia underling following the orders of a crime boss.

“This how mafia bosses work. They make the ‘request’ & soldiers & capos (Rudy Giuliani) follow up with the demand,” she tweeted, before calling for the former New York City mayor to face more tangible consequences.

“Why is this man still a member of the NY a bar? He should not be. He is free as a [United States] citizen to make up stuff but not as member of the bar,” she wrote.

Rocah’s take on Giuliani was echoed by former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti, who categorized the ordeal as an affront to the office of the president.

“Giuliani falsely claims it’s ‘appropriate’ for the President to bully a foreign country into investigating his political rival,” he wrote, adding, “The problem with Trump’s conduct isn’t a quid pro quo. It’s the abuse of presidential power to get aid from a foreign nation in an election.”

University of Michigan law professor Barb McQuade went ever further, suggesting that Giuliani could face criminal charges for his conduct.

“While a sitting President cannot be indicted, Giuliani can,” the former U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan wrote Saturday morning. “More facts are needed, but if he brokered deal to trade dirt on Biden for foreign aid, he could be guilty of conspiracy to commit bribery. Trump would return to his familiar role as Individual 1.”

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/former-federal-prosecutors-call-for-giuliani-to-be-disbarred-possibly-indicted/

[Kidlicious]

Zelensky stated publicly that there was no pressure.

[Ming]

And Trump stated publicly that a hurricane would hit Alabama... Your point?

[Kidlicious]

And Trump stated publicly that a hurricane would hit Alabama... Your point?

Fake news is fake news, and Trump did not say that. Typical Ming.

[Ming]

Trump tweeted that the state (Alabama), as well as Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina and Georgia, would “most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated.”

Not fake news... just another stupid Trump Tweet

[rah]

Trump is now admitting that Biden's name came up in conversations with the Ukraine. This just gets more hilarious by the second. But nothing inappropriate.

[Kidlicious]

Trump tweeted that the state (Alabama), as well as Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina and Georgia, would “most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated.”

Not fake news... just another stupid Trump Tweet

Just another false accusation.

[Broken_Erika]

Trump confirms he raised Bidens in Ukraine call
President Trump has confirmed that he raised the subject of former Vice-President Joe Biden and his son in a July phone call with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky.

Mr Trump is facing allegations that he pressured Ukraine to investigate his potential 2020 rival, which he denies.

But his admission about the phone call fuelled calls for Democrats to launch impeachment proceedings in Congress.

Adam Schiff, a senior Democrat, said such a move "may be the only remedy".

Mr Schiff, the influential head of the House Intelligence Committee, had previously opposed impeachment.

What's the background?
Hunter Biden became a director at Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma in 2014 while his father was Barack Obama's vice-president with a key role in US policy towards Ukraine.

Joe Biden is now the frontrunner to be the Democratic candidate who will take on Mr Trump in the 2020 election.

• Why Ukraine has become ensnared in US collusion claims
• Hunter Biden's Ukrainian gas connection
• US Air Force orders review over Trump resort stays

The controversy over whether Mr Trump pushed his Ukrainian counterpart to launch corruption investigations against the Bidens has dominated Washington in recent days.

It was sparked after revelations in US media that an intelligence whistleblower had filed a complaint over Mr Trump's communications with a foreign leader and a "promise" that was allegedly made.

It emerged last week that the Trump administration was blocking the whistleblower complaint from being handed over to Congress, despite the intelligence inspector general judging it to be "urgent".

Under US law, if a complaint is considered to be of "urgent concern", and if the inspector general considers the complaint to be "credible", then the department head is expected to share the information with Congress within seven days.

What did Trump admit?
Mr Trump told reporters on Sunday that the 25 July call with Mr Zelensky was "congratulatory", but mentioned corruption and "largely the fact that we don't want our people, like Vice-President Biden and his son, creating to the corruption already in the Ukraine".

But he insisted he had done "absolutely nothing wrong". He has previously accused the whistleblower of being "partisan" and said he knew all his phone calls to foreign leaders were listened to by US agencies.
While Mr Trump suggested a transcript could be released, senior Trump administration officials said it would be inappropriate for private conversations between world leaders to be made public.

The Wall Street Journal (WSJ) has quoted sources as saying Mr Trump had urged Mr Zelensky about eight times to work with his lawyer Rudy Giuliani on an investigation into Hunter Biden, but had not offered anything in return.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49793408

[Ming]

Just another false accusation.

It's on record. Talk about denial
That moron of a president ACTUALLY TWEETED THAT

[Kidlicious]

It's on record. Talk about denial
That moron of a president ACTUALLY TWEETED THAT

You are twisting facts. You must have learned that watching CNN.

[rah]

Our Kidiot. I've been proven wrong yet again so I'll just accuse you of watching CNN. How pathetic.

[Kidlicious]

I would be embarrassed to keep posting in a fake news thread but not some people evidently.