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Originally posted by Berzerker View PostYou and Ben aint seeing it, the women accusing him are irrelevant. It was his response that disqualified him. He lied under oath about several matters and confirmed for me at least the stories about him being a drunken dickwad are true. I just wonder how many other women are out there keeping quiet about him for fear of what his supporters will do.
This is about a Supreme Court justice, not about whether he should be in jail.
We require more of our hires at the local middle school than the Republicans require of a Supreme Court justice.
What that says is that the Supreme Court justices deserve the respect given to a politician and not the respect given to a professional much less that given to an arbitrator. Which is very damaging for our justice system.
JM
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You and Ben aint seeing it, the women accusing him are irrelevant. It was his response that disqualified him. He lied under oath about several matters and confirmed for me at least the stories about him being a drunken dickwad are true. I just wonder how many other women are out there keeping quiet about him for fear of what his supporters will do.
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yes, they went with the sworn statement they had already reported and didn't retract it based on her changing it... I guess.
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Originally posted by Berzerker View Postthe story I heard was she signed a sworn statement drawn up by Avenatti but she didn't read it and then accused him of fabricating the story. If thats true Avenatti is in trouble, but I dont know that NBC is at fault - they had her sworn statement and went with that.
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the story I heard was she signed a sworn statement drawn up by Avenatti but she didn't read it and then accused him of fabricating the story. If thats true Avenatti is in trouble, but I dont know that NBC is at fault - they had her sworn statement and went with that.
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Originally posted by Berzerker View PostSo NBC had her sworn statement and she called them later to say it was wrong?
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So NBC had her sworn statement and she called them later to say it was wrong?
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Nolte: NBC’s Kate Snow Says Info Clearing Kavanaugh Wasn’t ‘Newsworthy’ Before Confirmation
Jim Watson/AFP/Getty, Mark Ralston/AFP/Getty, NBC 29 Oct 2018911 7:17NBC’s Kate Snow offers only falsehoods and double talk to explain why she and her employer hid crucial facts that would have cleared then-Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of gang rape allegations.
On Friday, Breitbart News reported that, although NBC had the information a full week prior to his October 6 confirmation, NBC covered up news that would have cleared Kavanaugh when it mattered most — during those intense final days of the confirmation process.
During that week, here is the information NBC News hid from the public and those senators deciding on whether or not to confirm Kavanaugh:- On September 30, the woman who signed a sworn statement corroborating Julie Swetnick’s gang rape allegations against Kavanaugh (the statement was publicly released by attorney Michael Avenatti on October 2), not only told NBC she had never witnessed Kavanaugh spike punch or rape anyone, she also became something of a character witness for Kavanaugh when she told NBC she had never once seen him behave inappropriately.
- This second witness then told NBC on October 3 (three days prior to Kavanaugh’s confirmation) that Avenatti had fabricated her sworn statement.
- During this crucial time, Avenatti was playing games with NBC to conceal all of this — what NBC itself describes as “an apparent effort to thwart the reporting process[.]”
Nothing was stopping NBC from reporting the above facts as they came in. There was no valid reason for NBC to withhold this relevant and crucial information, either from the public or from those senators still deciding Kavanaugh’s fate.
What’s more, had NBC released this story as it broke, NBC would have owned a major scoop, a story of national consequence. Instead, NBC chose not to reveal the truth until October 26, more than three weeks after it mattered.
Last edited by Kidlicious; October 29, 2018, 19:56.
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before I respond to anything else,
Where did Ford advocate smearing Gorsuch with false accusations?
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What is her professional incentive?
And go/crowdfund me started up years after she told people about Kavanaugh to pay for her expenses like security and lawyers
And no, I wouldn't falsely accuse someone for money and you have no evidence she did either.
Kavanaugh went out of his way to make trouble for Ford?
Link the analysis showing the Democrats were favored to take the Senate.
Easy. CNN quotes them in September saying this: https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/09/polit...ber/index.html
Ford testified she wasn't in the room, how could the GF know she was right? Ford lives out on the west coast, I think Keyser lives in the east. So you think they dont like each other because Keyser didn't lie for her? What is this history of animosity and if it exists why would Ford name her?
all those people she named dont remember the party.
I never called for a ban on booze
And I know people who fear flying and still fly, so what?
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostI do. She has a professional and a financial incentive to oppose Kavanaugh to the tune of half a million dollars. Would you perjure yourself to destroy the life of someone you hate for that? Money talks and she's made out quite well for what, a month or so of work?
"Some people will smear their political enemies for free. But then what do I know? I just post on Poly."
Smearing people for free
I'll be honest, if someone offered me that much, especially to stick the knife into someone that's gone out of their way to make trouble for me, I'd have to think about it. I think a lot of people would.
'Before the nomination', is extremely vague. A year ago? Six months ago? When?
At the time of the nomination this was not so clear. Look, it's even in the other thread, Giancarlo stating that the Democrats would take the Senate.
Simple. She named people that she thought would be sensible people because she had no other choice. She could have said there were no witnesses, and then nobody would believe her.
People asked her for some names and she gave the other boys, and then a friend that she thought would want to stay out of the circus and/or would roll for her. Her testimony looks very different if her girlfriend lies and says, "yeah I was there, Christine is right". The interesting part for me is that there's a history of animosity between the two. Which makes it interesting to me why Christine chose her. For her being a 'lifelong friend', it doesn't appear to be such a strong friendship.
Weird. Apparently I'm the libertarian and you're the prohibitionist.
Because I have people close to me who don't and didn't fly ever and they took the bus to get to places. They certainly weren't flying to Tahiti for vacation.
Where did Ford advocate smearing Gorsuch with false accusations?
You're dodging that questionLast edited by Berzerker; October 26, 2018, 01:08.
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Color me shocked that Ben is using his own shortcomings as a person as a basis for his suspicions about Dr Ford.
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