20

[self biased]

i came here by way of the old alpha.owo boards and planet ACOL. Somewhere in my college years i got mired in the OT here and havent left.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

alpha.owo

Thank you! I was trying to remember this for a talk the other day and couldn't dredge it up.

Related: Poly has now been cited in a lecture at Yale, so y'all can probably claim some sort of author credit for that if you want.

[Proteus_MST]

Do you have the transcript or topic of the lecture?

[BlackCat]

Let's hope that it wasn't about OT

[rah]

Kideconimics

[Lorizael]

Do you have the transcript or topic of the lecture?

Or a DOI?

[ZEE]

Wonder if I was in it...

[Koyaanisqatsi]

The talk was on software preservation– - was discussing how modders keep games alive and mentioned Poly's history with modding, documenting, etc. I actually did discuss the OT without naming it as such because I talked about how the community has migrated around to different sites over the years (which is why I tried and failed to remember owo) and how that's kinda important.

Now that I think about it, this is the second time I've referenced Apolyton/the Civ community. I also mentioned it in some writing a few years back talking about the effort to open source CtP.

[Lorizael]

The talk was on software preservation– - was discussing how modders keep games alive and mentioned Poly's history with modding, documenting, etc.

Neat. This is a semi-big topic right now in the world of NASA's planetary data archives. Do we store data in an extremely simple, very well documented way so that no matter what happens, it can be read by whatever software exists in the future; or do we make sure we only use software that meets strict international standards and hope those stick around; or do we build our own tools for access and analysis and just make sure they're documented and maintained?

[ZEE]

Forumwarz tried that by building their forums and game from scratch with Ruby on Rails. Clowns constantly hacked it every day and forced the admins to fix every loophole imaginable by hand. This was 6 years ago or so. The effort eventually became less valuable than the results, so it was abandoned by both the admins and the community. For some reason they keep paying to keep the site alive.

I think it is just to spite me to remind me how much time, money, and humiliation I spent over there.

[pchang]

Store data in a simple and well documented format. The future is too unpredictable to count on the long term viability of the other 2 choices.

[BeBMan]

20?

'grats Poly

[BeBMan]

My knowledge of The First Greek Civ2 Site and The Ultimate Civ2 Site is sketchy and second-hand. I think they were around for a year or two before? Most importantly, we're older than CFC.

Damn. Those Greeks really invented everything...

[Lorizael]

Store data in a simple and well documented format. The future is too unpredictable to count on the long term viability of the other 2 choices.

That is generally what we do. But we also have to take into consideration the needs of current users who are either familiar with contemporaneous tools or might want more than what the simple formats provide.

[Buster Crabbe's Uncle]

http://alphacentauri2.info/Alpha.owo/