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  • #46
    Originally posted by Aeson View Post

    I'm not aware of any studies which have been done which show a difference between atheists and believers in torture results. Please enlighten us!

    Rationality is cost/benefit ... that is true. What you are continuing to miss is hat there is a great benefit for doing good. Those benefits are why I spend most of my life and income helping the less fortunate without needing God to tell me to do so. It's also why I don't just perma ban you for being a horrible moron and/or delete this site for being unprofitable (in regards to my time spent on it). I don't need God to threaten me with Hell or bribe me with Heaven to do good, I do it for good's sake. I am sorry that you do not even begin to comprehend that doing good is actually good for you even without a God.
    Again, you accuse you of not knowing something when in the previous paragraph you admit that I do know. Is that good? No. I rebuke you.

    Yes, I know exactly what you are talking about. I know that you are proud of doing what you consider good, such as not perma banning me. But I agree that what you do is almost perms banning. I just got banned not too long ago for calling someone a baby killer. Is that right? Dinner recently told me to shoot myself in the head to make the world a better place. How long did he get banned for that? Yet you told him that you didn't like him not because of that, but because he said that Mexicans are wetbacks.

    So I know that you are very proud of your actions, and that makes you feel good. Stop pretending that I don't know. What I'm talking about is going beyond that. Doing good even though it is going to cost you personally more than it benefits you. This is what Christ taught. He said to love without keeping count.
    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Aeson View Post

      You still don't understand the difference between physical comfort/pain ... and feeling good about what you do.
      Nope, you don't understand that only doing things that feel good to you has limitations, yet you are presenting yourself as a rational person. The question is how much good are you doing.
      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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      • #48
        Ghandi, Mother Teresa, MLK Jr didn't do what they did because they felt good about themselves for doing good. This is my point. Maybe you don't understand that. Heck, even Socrates didn't agree to drink the hemlock out of pride.

        I don't think Socrates qualifies as an atheist, but he's the closest that I can think of.
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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        • #49
          Here is an article on how doing good raises your dopamine levels, which I already knew, but which you keep telling me that I don't understand. Maybe now you will discontinue that logical fallacy and move on.

          Random Acts Of Kindness Raise Dopamine Levels And Boost Your Mood
          https://www.medicaldaily.com/random-acts-kindness-sweet-emotion-helping-others-dopamine-levels-383563
          Performing acts of kindness, such as picking up litter or buying a friend coffee, can give you a mood boost.

          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
            Ghandi, Mother Teresa, MLK Jr didn't do what they did because they felt good about themselves for doing good. This is my point. Maybe you don't understand that. Heck, even Socrates didn't agree to drink the hemlock out of pride.

            I don't think Socrates qualifies as an atheist, but he's the closest that I can think of.
            Well, Gandhi and Socrates also didn't do their actions because of their faith (as a greek, I guess Socrates believed in the olympian Pantheon).
            They did so out of their belief that their actions are for the best of their society. A belief that it independent from being theist or atheist
            (a belief that also can lead you to do bad things, however ... the Spartans, for example, killed all of the newborn kids that were found to be weak or disabled ... also out of the belief that it would be for the best of their society)
            Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
            Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post

              Well, Gandhi and Socrates also didn't do their actions because of their faith (as a greek, I guess Socrates believed in the olympian Pantheon).
              They did so out of their belief that their actions are for the best of their society. A belief that it independent from being theist or atheist
              (a belief that also can lead you to do bad things, however ... the Spartans, for example, killed all of the newborn kids that were found to be weak or disabled ... also out of the belief that it would be for the best of their society)
              The question is how does atheism explain such behavior.
              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                They murder more people in fact, historically speaking.
                How about a cite on this as well... as usual, you are just pulling stuff out of your ass yet again
                Keep on Civin'
                RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                • #53
                  If someone needs the incentive of a reward in the afterlife to do good in this life speak loads about their character in my opinion.
                  Those that do it for no other reward then they know its the right thing to do are the real heroes. If feeling good is what convinces them, that doesn't belittle what they are doing as far as I'm concerned. Those that think God is a requirement are just plain wrong.

                  Keep it up Aeson, you're one of those heroes.
                  It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                  RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by rah View Post
                    If someone needs the incentive of a reward in the afterlife to do good in this life speak loads about their character in my opinion.
                    Those that do it for no other reward then they know its the right thing to do are the real heroes. If feeling good is what convinces them, that doesn't belittle what they are doing as far as I'm concerned. Those that think God is a requirement are just plain wrong.

                    Keep it up Aeson, you're one of those heroes.
                    So this is why you're an atheist, because you think they have superior character?
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                    • #55
                      Of course I never said that.
                      I have no problem if people learn to do good from their belief in God. I don't care where they learn it. But I don't think through him is the only way.
                      I'm not a fan of those that do good because they believe it's a requirement to a reward in the afterlife.

                      And where did I say I was an atheist? Why do you just make things up?
                      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                      RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by rah View Post
                        Of course I never said that.
                        I have no problem if people learn to do good from their belief in God. I don't care where they learn it. But I don't think through him is the only way.
                        I'm not a fan of those that do good because they believe it's a requirement to a reward in the afterlife.

                        And where did I say I was an atheist? Why do you just make things up?
                        Your comments are just stupid. That's why. How about you join in the debate where it's at?
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                        • #57
                          Yep... in Kidland everybody else is stupid.
                          He is the only one that knows anything...

                          But in real life, he just makes things up and when people ask him to back up his wild ass claims, he either changes the subject, makes up more lies, or calls them stupid. (or whatever other insult of the day he has)

                          Typical Kidiot
                          Keep on Civin'
                          RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Ming View Post
                            Yep... in Kidland everybody else is stupid.
                            He is the only one that knows anything...

                            But in real life, he just makes things up and when people ask him to back up his wild ass claims, he either changes the subject, makes up more lies, or calls them stupid. (or whatever other insult of the day he has)

                            Typical Kidiot
                            I have the perfect solution for you. Stop asking for citations for EVERYTHING!
                            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                            • #59
                              I have the perfect solution for you, provide a citation once in a while and maybe people wouldn't accuse you of pulling stuff out of your ass on EVERYTHING.
                              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Kidicious View Post

                                I have the perfect solution for you. Stop asking for citations for EVERYTHING!
                                I can understand why you would say that... because everything you say is made up and you can't provide a citation for it.
                                and that's why you never do...

                                But go ahead, make another insult... change the subject... or make something up.
                                But provide real support for what you "claim"... not going to happen
                                Keep on Civin'
                                RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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