Criminal immigrants let us/US down?

[BeBMan]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...tion-myth.html

If that's true I'm beginning to wonder what's wrong with those immigrants. 1st they get into the country, then - in general - they prove to be rather imcompetent at doing crime?!?

So great again politicians/the pres love to protect innocent Americans from criminal immigrants and what happens?!? They just don't deliver on crime!

If that isn't enough to know they are evil ....

[Wezil]

According to my learned and intelligent US source California is post apocalyptic from immigrant damage.

[Dinner]

That article is political garbage and nothing more.. No one is talking about all immigrants being bad. Many people are extremely angry about illegal alien criminals breaking the law. The very fact that this fake "study" has to intentionally mix the two groups up proves it lacks any and all credibility. Oh, and it's study group is only one city in Texas intentionally picked for headlines and a predetermined outcome.

[Wezil]

We know your feelings on brown people already Oerdin.

[Dinner]

https://amgreatness.com/2018/05/07/yes-npr-illegal-immigration-does-increase-violent-crime/

Granted, the guy is a political pendant but he raises some great points about why that "study", I use the term loosely, is nothing more than political garbage and very poor science.

[Dinner]

We know your feelings on brown people already Oerdin.

See? When talking about the difference between legal and illegal immigration defenders who want to pretend there is no difference automatically make unfounded dispersion because they cannot argue the issue logically and they know it.

I will have to show you a picture of my girlfriend and I some time. Illegal vs legal immigration is indeed a valid topic of discussion and distinction. Any group who tries to conflate the two is being dishonest and they know it.

[Wezil]

You have brown friends do you?

[Dinner]

We need dumb reps for this site.

[BeBMan]

That article is political garbage and nothing more.. No one is talking about all immigrants being bad. Many people are extremely angry about illegal alien criminals breaking the law. The very fact that this fake "study" has to intentionally mix the two groups up proves it lacks any and all credibility. Oh, and it's study group is only one city in Texas intentionally picked for headlines and a predetermined outcome.

Trump is quoted with:

“Every day, sanctuary cities release illegal immigrants, drug dealers, traffickers, gang members back into our communities,” he said last week. “They’re safe havens for just some terrible people.”

Are you saying they invented this bit? And btw, that he added "some terrible people" is rather lip service after starting with "every day blah blah".

Oh, and it's study group is only one city in Texas intentionally picked for headlines and a predetermined outcome.

At the end:

This is not the only study showing that immigration does not increase crime. A broad survey released in January examined years of research on the immigrant-crime connection, concluding that an overwhelming majority of studies found either no relationship between the two or a beneficial one, in which immigrant communities bring economic and cultural revitalization to the neighborhoods they join.

(bolding by someone)

When talking about the difference between legal and illegal immigration defenders who want to pretend there is no difference automatically make unfounded dispersion because they cannot argue the issue logically and they know it.

If your point is that they're criminal because they come illegally, well - that is correct in the legal sense, but if the numbers on crime beyond the mere fact that they came illegally are actually going down it means illegal immigrants are mostly guilty of being in the wrong place, which is a far cry from Trump's generic "drug dealers, traffickers, gang members..."

[Wezil]

We need dumb reps for this site.

You have outed yourself for years as a racist.

Boo-hoo if I don't take you seriously on the topic.

[Dinner]

Yep, definitely need dumb reps.

[Wezil]

Ohh I am once again slain.

Are you and Kid neighbours?

[Dinner]

No, it is not invented. The "sanctuary" policies literally only benefit criminals. We are not just talking about immigration offenses but people who got arrested by state or local police for completely unrelated offenses, often felonies, and their deportation is blocked. That is just wrong. Illegal aliens who literally are getting arrested for other crimes are EXACTLY who should be prioritized for deportation.

[pchang]

To Oerdin:
I'm not sure where your impressions come from, but perhaps you will be open to some additional information. The CATO institute (which I think most will agree has a moderate right wing bias) studied criminal data from the state of Texas. They found that illegal immigrants were 25% less likely to be convicted of homicide than Americans by birth. They also found that legal immigrants were 87% less likely to be convicted of homicide than Americans by birth. While not comprehensive, (only 1 state and 1 year), it is one of the few studies that made a separation between legal and illegal immigrants and was broader than most studies.

[Kidlicious]

Dinner keeps getting called a racist for believing in border laws and he's just like, "meh, I'll still be a liberal."

Do conservatives lie about you like that?