The bestest US healthcare of all times

[-Jrabbit]

The CBO estimates that the number of uninsured will increase primarily because the penalty (TAX) for not having insurance will be eliminated. Sounds pretty cruel to me.

Also it will reduce the deficit and lower premiums.

Considering what they're doing, it will not reduce the deficit enough. They are funneling over half a trillion dollars into tax relief and corporate welfare that COULD be cutting that deficit.

As far as premiums: I'm 63 and self-employed; mine will likely skyrocket under the current proposal.

It is cruel AND greedy, plain and simple.

Wonder what Trump's personal financial benefit will end up being...

[pchang]

The top 0.1% (>$5 million) in income will see an average tax decrease of $250,000. Trump's will probably be much larger.

medicaid reductions will probably result in closure of many rural and smaller hospitals. I'm sure Kid will never need to go to a hospital.

[Kidlicious]

Considering what they're doing, it will not reduce the deficit enough. They are funneling over half a trillion dollars into tax relief and corporate welfare that COULD be cutting that deficit.

As far as premiums: I'm 63 and self-employed; mine will likely skyrocket under the current proposal.

It is cruel AND greedy, plain and simple.

Wonder what Trump's personal financial benefit will end up being...

Of course it's corporate welfare. Democrats destroyed the market, according to evil plan.

[Proteus_MST]

The CBO estimates that the number of uninsured will increase primarily because the penalty (TAX) for not having insurance will be eliminated. Sounds pretty cruel to me.

You only tell half the truth.
Th ones that go uninsured primarily because of the penalty for not having an insurance is only the effect for 2018:

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CBO and JCT estimate that, in 2018, 15 million more people would be uninsured under this legislation than under current law—primarily because the penalty for not having insurance would be eliminated.
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But until 2026 the number of uninsured will rise to 46 million (compared to 28 Millions if Obamacare were kept alive) ... and those are primarily due to the cuts to Medicaid that are planned under the GOP Act:

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The increase in the number of uninsured people relative to the number projected under current law would reach 19 million in 2020 and 22 million in 2026. In later years, other changes in the legislation - —lower spending on Medicaid and substantially smaller average subsidies for coverage in the nongroup market— - would also lead to increases in the number of people without health insurance. By 2026, among people under age 65, enrollment in Medicaid would fall by about 16 percent and an estimated 49 million people would be uninsured, compared with 28 million who would lack insurance that year under current law.
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Source:

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52849

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Also it will reduce the deficit and lower premiums.

Seems to me like th lower pemiums will be bought with less insurance coverage:

In 2020, average premiums for benchmark plans for single individuals would be about 30 percent lower than under current law. A combination of factors would lead to that decrease— - most important, the smaller share of benefits paid for by the benchmark plans and federal funds provided to directly reduce premiums.

So, as an arbitrary example, maybe the Obamacare premiums are higher ... but, for example, things like Chemotherapy ae covered by your current policy.
Whereas under the new policy you may have to pay 30% less premiums ... but better hope that noone in your family gets cancer, as then you will have to pay everything out of tyour own pocket

[Kidlicious]

Yeah, this isn't a plan that anyone wants in the end run. It's better than Obama care. Even the Ds admit that Obama care is a horrible turd. But until Ds somehow get the decency to stop calling the free market cruel and greedy they can't be reasoned with because they are saying "We are not reasonable people."

[Aeson]

The free market is cruel and greedy. If you were a true capitalist you'd embrace the description. "Greed is good." You must be a commie in disguise

[Kidlicious]

The free market is cruel and greedy. If you were a true capitalist you'd embrace the description. "Greed is good." You must be a commie in disguise

If you go back to Adam Smith (a philosopher), and everything he wrote, you will see that he never claimed that people are greedy. What he said is that people have sympathy for others because of self-interest.

[-Jrabbit]

Of course it's corporate welfare. Democrats destroyed the market, according to evil plan.

You don't get to blame the Dems for what the GOP is doing.

[Ming]

Why wouldn't kidiot blame the Dems... he will also blame the liberals, Muslims, Gays, and Feminists because he always does.

[Kidlicious]

You don't get to blame the Dems for what the GOP is doing.

Ha! And you're blaming Rs for not fixing ACA.

[giblets]

Or blame fake news

[Kidlicious]

Why wouldn't kidiot blame the Dems... he will also blame the liberals, Muslims, Gays, and Feminists because he always does.

If you don't like people blaming Ds stop being horrible.

[pchang]

We are blaming Republicans for the current contents of the health care legislation in both the House and the Senate. After all, they wrote it with no input from anyone else. Who are you blaming?

[Kidlicious]

We are blaming Republicans for the current contents of the health care legislation in both the House and the Senate. After all, they wrote it with no input from anyone else. Who are you blaming?

The Heritage Foundation
Open Navigation Open Search REPORT Health Care Reform Ten Broken Obamacare Promises

December 18, 2013 5 min read Download Report

Alyene Senger
Former Policy Analyst, Domestic Policy Studies, Institute for Family, Community, and Opportunity
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Since the passage of Obamacare in 2010, many of the President’s famous promises have been routinely broken. As he so ironically threatened in 2009, “If you misrepresent what’s in this plan, we will call you out.”[1] To that end, here are 10 promises of Obamacare that have already proved to be broken.

Promise #1: “If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period.”[2]

Reality: Millions of Americans have lost and will lose their coverage due to Obamacare.

Obamacare has significantly disrupted the market for those who buy coverage on their own by imposing new coverage and benefit mandates, causing a reported 4.7 million health insurance cancelations of an existing policy in 32 states.[3]

For those with employer-sponsored insurance in the group market, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projects that 7 million fewer people will have employment-based insurance by 2018.[4]

Moreover, the Administration itself has admitted that employers would not keep their existing health plans. Federal regulations written in 2010 estimated that 51 percent of small and large employers would lose their “grandfathered status” by 2013—meaning a majority of employers would not keep their existing health plans.[5]

Promise #2: “[T]hat means that no matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period.”[6]

Reality: Many Americans might not be able to keep their current doctor without paying extra.

Many plans offered on Obamacare’s exchanges have very limited provider networks, decreasing the chances consumers will be able to keep their current doctor without paying more money.[7] Furthermore, many Americans who purchase coverage on their own have had their existing health plans changed or canceled due to Obamacare, resulting in some people being unable to keep their current doctors without paying additional money to do so.

Due to the significant payment reductions included in Obamacare, seniors with Medicare Advantage plans may be forced to find new doctors. The largest provider of these plans, UnitedHealth, has recently reduced its provider networks in several states.[8]

Promise #3: “In an Obama administration, we’ll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year.”[9]

Reality: Premiums for people purchasing coverage in the individual market have significantly increased in a majority of states.

A Heritage analysis shows that, on average, consumers in 42 states will see their premiums in the exchanges increase, many by over 100 percent.[10]

For people with employer-sponsored coverage, costs also continue to increase. For families, premiums from 2009 to 2013 have increased by an average of $2,976.[11]

Promise #4: “[F]or the 85 and 90 percent of Americans who already have health insurance, this thing’s already happened. And their only impact is that their insurance is stronger, better and more secure than it was before. Full stop. That’s it. They don’t have to worry about anything else.”[12]

Reality: Obamacare imposes certain new benefit mandates on those with employer-sponsored coverage—a majority of Americans.

These mandates increase the cost of coverage. In fact, federal regulations written in 2010 assumed “that the increases in insurance benefits will be directly passed on to the consumer in the form of higher premiums. These assumptions bias the estimates of premium changes upward.”[13]

But higher premiums not only cost people more money; they have other impacts on coverage as well. For instance, as a response to the direct cost increases associated with Obamacare, UPS dropped coverage for spouses of employees if they are offered coverage through their own employers.[14]

Promise #5: “Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase.”[15]

Reality: Obamacare contains 18 separate tax hikes, fees, and penalties, many of which heavily impact the middle class.

Altogether, Obamacare’s taxes and penalties will accumulate over $770 billion in new revenue over a 10-year period.[16] Among the taxes that will hit the middle class are the individual mandate tax, the medical device tax, and new penalties and limits on health savings accounts and flexible spending accounts.[17]

Promise #6: “I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits—either now or in the future.”[18]

Reality: Obamacare’s new spending is unsustainable.

Obamacare was passed into law relying on a wide variety of unrealistic budget projections. A more realistic assessment reveals that it will be a multi-trillion-dollar budget buster. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) estimated the cost of Obamacare over the long term if certain cost-containment measures were overridden. Under that alternative scenario, which assumes that “historical trends and policy preferences continue,” the GAO found that Obamacare would increase the primary deficit by 0.7 percent of gross domestic product (GDP).[19]

Senator Jeff Sessions (R–AL) and the Senate Budget Committee staff, who commissioned the GAO report, translated the 75-year percentage estimate into today’s dollar amount, which would be $6.2 trillion over the next 75 years.[20]

Promise #7: “[W]hatever ideas exist in terms of bending the cost curve and starting to reduce costs for families, businesses, and government, those elements are in this bill.”[21]

Reality: Health spending is still rising and is projected to grow at an average rate of 5.8 percent from 2012 to 2022.[22]

While growth in health spending has been slower recently compared to the past, that is largely due to the sluggish economic recovery. Indeed, Obamacare’s new entitlements will help drive greater health spending in 2014 and beyond.[23]

Promise #8: “I will protect Medicare.”[24]

Reality: Obamacare cuts Medicare spending.

Obamacare makes unprecedented and unrealistic payment reductions to Medicare providers and Medicare Advantage plans in order to finance the new spending in the law. The cuts amount to over $700 billion from 2013 to 2022.[25] If Congress allows these draconian reductions to take place, it will significantly impact seniors’ ability to access care.[26]

Promise #9: “I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American.”[27]

Reality: Millions of Americans will remain uninsured.

Despite spending nearly $1.8 trillion in new spending from 2014 to 2023, the law falls far short of universal coverage. Indeed, Obamacare is projected by the CBO to leave 31 million uninsured after a decade of full implementation.[28]

Promise #10: “So this law means more choice, more competition, lower costs for millions of Americans.”[29]

Reality: Obamacare has not increased insurer competition or consumer choice.

In the vast majority of states, the number of insurers competing in the state’s exchange is actually less than the number of carriers that previously sold individual market policies in the state.[30] And at the local level, for 35 percent of the nation’s counties, exchange enrollees will have a choice of plans from only two insurers—a duopoly. In 17 percent of counties, consumers will have no choice—a monopoly—as only one carrier is offering coverage in the exchange.[31]

—Alyene Senger is a Research Associate in the Center for Health Policy Studies at The Heritage Foundation.

[pchang]

I'm sure you are proud of your cut and paste skills, but that has nothing to do with the current legislation.