Had a dinner with an SJW (did not know beforehand). What the hell? Questions at the end.

[-Jrabbit]

I like the idea of an alt-right, since I'm not happy with the conservative movement. I don't think we should label the movement a racist movement. That's what the left is doing to prevent it from catching on. It does the same thing with other non-conservative right movements. I'll take a wait and see approach.

BTW, you can criticize the MRA movement all you want too. I don't really identify as such anymore, but I'm sure that I will disagree with much of your criticism.

Liking the idea of an alternative to the mainstream right is all well and good, but "alt-right" is an established term with real background and meaning. They labeled themselves a racist movement, so the term is intractably associated with white nationalists. Accusing "the left" of somehow tainting the term when it was created, proudly displayed, and promoted by white nationalists is simply a denial of reality.

Cute little froggies on 4chan and Steve Bannon (who promoted the movement heavily while running Breitbart) being in the White House do not make it OK to be racist.

[Kidlicious]

Liking the idea of an alternative to the mainstream right is all well and good, but "alt-right" is an established term with real background and meaning. They labeled themselves a racist movement, so the term is intractably associated with white nationalists. Accusing "the left" of somehow tainting the term when it was created, proudly displayed, and promoted by white nationalists is simply a denial of reality.

Cute little froggies on 4chan and Steve Bannon (who promoted the movement heavily while running Breitbart) being in the White House do not make it OK to be racist.

Yes, some racists don't like to be associated with non-racist conservatives and they want the alt-right to be for racists, and probably don't like non-racists claiming to be alt-right.

[-Jrabbit]

That's true, but not my point at all. What I'm saying is, if you continue to call yourself (or even just defend the term) alt-right, people in general will take that to mean that you are racist, and proud of it.

[Kidlicious]

That's true, but not my point at all. What I'm saying is, if you continue to call yourself (or even just defend the term) alt-right, people in general will take that to mean that you are racist, and proud of it.

I read leftist fake news talking about how teh evil white males have morphed into the alt-right as a tactic against minorities. Such people are my enemy and don't give two ****s about me. Do you think I give a damn about their opinion?

[Proteus_MST]

I read leftist fake news talking about how teh evil white males have morphed into the alt-right as a tactic against minorities. Such people are my enemy and don't give two ****s about me. Do you think I give a damn about their opinion?

Why do you think that Leftists will be the only people who connect alt-right with racism?

[Kidlicious]

Why do you think that Leftists will be the only people who connect alt-right with racism?

Well what happened was I said that not everyone who identifies with alt-right is racist, and also that anti-feminists are included in the left's definition of alt-right. Since I'm anti-feminist I fit into that definition. So now I'm being identified as a racist.

So I think that is SJW tactics, and normal people would not call me a person who hates minorities and women.

[Aeson]

And you don't want to be criticized because it makes so called moderates look like you?

I don't mind criticism. I am confident in and have a clear conscience about my positions and how I live my life. However if you're going to criticize me, try to address me, what I've actually said and done, rather than some fantasy you have concocted about me.

[Kidlicious]

I don't mind criticism. I am confident in and have a clear conscience about my positions and how I live my life. However if you're going to criticize me, try to address me, what I've actually said and done, rather than some fantasy you have concocted about me.

You're the one who has concocted fantasies about me. I'm simply telling you that you have and what that means.

[-Jrabbit]

Well what happened was I said that not everyone who identifies with alt-right is racist, and also that anti-feminists are included in the left's definition of alt-right. Since I'm anti-feminist I fit into that definition. So now I'm being identified as a racist.

IT'S A WHITE NATIONALIST TERM. Doesn't matter who invented it or promoted it, left or right. The fact is, racism is now the literal textbook definition of alt-right.

So if you tell people you're alt-right, literally EVERYONE will call you a racist, whether you are one or not. It's your choice.

So I think that is SJW tactics, and normal people would not call me a person who hates minorities and women.

Trying to blame "social justice warriors" is just willfully ignorant. Wake up to the fact that when you tell people you identify as alt-right, you are telling them you are racist.

Surely someone who constantly posts about politics knows this as a fact.

[Aeson]

Kid also posts blatantly misogynistic stuff consistently, so it doesn't matter what label he gives himself ...

[Kidlicious]

Give it a rest.

[Aeson]

When you stop demanding it with your posts ....

[dannubis]

Hillary helped the Bush administration lie us into war with Iraq and then she added Libya and Syria to her resume under Obama

how do you vote for someone like that?

I wouldn't.

But that doesn't change the fact that voting Trump into office makes one responsible for Trump being into office.
You migth have had other motives but he made it very clear before hand what his position was on women and brown people.

[Broken_Erika]

That Election was like the Iran-Iraq war. You just wanted them both to loose.

[-Jrabbit]

Trump made it easy for me to vote against him. The devil you know over a guy the biggest downside in a major party candidate since McGovern. Easy call.