Sweden is desperately trying to destroy itself.

[giblets]

I bet a lot of things don't make sense for you.

[Aeson]

Kid,

https://www.unodc.org/documents/gsh/maps/Map_1.4.pdf

As you can see in this map, Sweden is comparable to most of Western Europe in intentional homicides. (Side note: Why does Trump choose Sweden? Russia is a much better way to pretend Muslims are bad? Russia has the higher Muslim population and more crime than any Western and most Eastern European countries.)

As you said about rape, Sweden has expanded the classification of what is rape over time, so how much of the increase in reported rapes is because more qualifies as rape, and how much increase (or decrease) in same-type rape is unclear.

[rah]

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/indices_explained.jsp

It sounds like garbage. Why would you rely on visitor surveys rather than actual reported crime stats?

AH, I thought that just referred to the feel frightened part. Yeah, sounds a bit sketchy, especially whem crime statistics are available.

[Kidlicious]

Yeah, they aren't higher in homicides Assaults they are second from what I saw. In rape they are second and like twice as much per capita as number three. We can't be for sure about the rape figure but it's pretty high. How many women are reporting being raped by their husband etc...

The most telling thing is that Sweden doesn't keep stats anymore on whether or not perps are immigrants or not. Obviously they would do that if it were useful to them.

[Aeson]

How many women are reporting being raped by their husband etc...

This is an important distinction. In Sweden if a man rapes his wife many times, each instance counts as a separate rape. So a single man raping his wife could count for 1 rape in some countries, and tens or even hundreds of rapes in Sweden.

[Kidlicious]

in my mind Sweden has failed to produce statistics on this.

[kentonio]

in my mind Sweden has failed to produce statistics on this.

No one gives a **** what you think about anything, especially not the Swedes. They live in one of the most beautiful, happy, tolerant countries on earth, and most of them are disgusted by the vile racist fascist ****wittery coming out of America these days.

Have you ever actually left your own country (other than trips to Mexican brothels)?

[Kidlicious]

No one gives a **** what you think about anything, especially not the Swedes. They live in one of the most beautiful, happy, tolerant countries on earth, and most of them are disgusted by the vile racist fascist ****wittery coming out of America these days.

Have you ever actually left your own country (other than trips to Mexican brothels)?

I've likely traveled much more than you and we don't have the kind of relationship where I like to share personal info with you.

[Dinner]

You can look at stats for police reports if you want. I couldn't find a comprehensive measure, although I looked at the OECD states which measure particular types of crime. Sweden was second in assaults I believe for all OECD nations. They are also very high in rape, but they are hyper feminist in the way they count rape so that one is questionable. But overall they are higher than most other comparable western European nations.

There is also the problem that Sweden does not release info by ethnic, religious, racial, or even country of origin for political reasons. We know this data exists because leaks have referenced it but politicians officially refuse to release it as part of crime data. The second problem is the politicians have order the official crime stats falsified by deliberately not including data which makes them or their agenda not look good and even by specifically ordering police to avoid taking official reports when one of the fake refugees are involved.

So the official numbers are simply not honest, creditable, or objective. It is a systematic problem deliberately created by self serving politicians. It is kind of like what China does when ever it doesn't like it's official numbers, it just makes up new numbers and declares them to be real though I imagine Sweden and Germany are less blatant. They just fiddle with methodology to push things the direction they want, order police to throw out some data on spurious ground or simply not collect the data at all, then announce how things are no magically better even though folks on the ground see the exact opposite.

[Dinner]

Oh, and the US has politicians who doctor numbers as well or who forbid collection of official data. Remember when Bush Jr tried to redefine fast food as "manufacturing" because manufacturing jobs were nose diving under him? Or when Reagan tried to reclassify ketchup as a vegetable so he could claim better childhood nutrition than we really had? Hell, we currently have Trump hiding all climate related data and telling scientists not collect more because Republicans don't want the truth known. Republicans and the NRA have made it illegal to us any federal money to study gun crime or health impacts and even deliberately made it down near impossible to collect gun death data.

Official numbers usually get doctored for political reasons.

[Kidlicious]

Dinner, what do you think makes people like kentonio want to try to shame people for demanding answers about possible racist gang rape by radical Muslims, pure evil?

[Aeson]

You're not just asking for more data, you're making/defending specific claims while simultaneously acknowledging that the data to support those claims isn't available.

[Kidlicious]

You're not just asking for more data, you're making/defending specific claims while simultaneously acknowledging that the data to support those claims isn't available.

The problem isn't that the data doesn't support my claim. It's that the evidence has been covered up by the government.

[Aeson]

If you don't have the data to prove your claim, your claim is unfounded. You admit you don't have it.

[Proteus_MST]

The problem isn't that the data doesn't support my claim. It's that the evidence has been covered up by the government.

Yoou sound like a right wing conspiracy theorist from Breitbart