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Originally posted by Kidicious View PostFYI: Dead dry leaves burn. Did they teach you that in biology?
1. Leaves on the ground
2. Fire on the rejuvenation of forests (especially in forests that are adapted to periodic forest fires)
Probably not ... and I guess neither has Trump, which is why he just comes with statements that are as idiotic (and as revealing to his lack of ecological knowledge) as hsi statement regarding the water in the californian rivers
Also ... if you want the californian forest management to implement more effective measures to prevent the spread of forest fires, then pay for it (i.e. federal funds) ... it surely won't be cheap ... and Trump wants to cut all funds in order to be able to fund his tax reductions for the rich, so we have a certain conflict of inteests hereLast edited by Proteus_MST; November 18, 2018, 17:44.Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
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Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post
Ever heard about the ecogical impact of
1. Leaves on the ground
2. Fire on the rejuvenation of forests (especially in forests that are adapted to periodic forest fires)
Probably not ... and I guess neither has Trump, which is why he just comes with statements that are as idiotic (and as revealing to his lack of ecological knowledge) as hsi statement regarding the water in the californian rivers
Also ... if you want the californian forest management to implement more effective measures to prevent the spread of forest fires, then pay for it (i.e. federal funds) ... it surely won't be cheap ... and Trump wants to cut all funds in order to be able to fund his tax reductions for the rich, so we have a certain conflict of inteests here
And you just admitted that not raking leaves causes fires.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
They don't deserve funding if it doesn't do any good, because they don't even clean up dead leaves.
And you just admitted that not raking leaves causes fires.
And if you don't pay money, you don't get any performance.
That's the problem with you Trumpists ... you cut all funds (so that rich people don't have to pay any taxes) and then expect the government servikces to run as smoothly as they would, if trhey were amply funded.
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This may work in one of Trumps alternate universes, but not in the real oneTamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
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Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
If you don't manage your grasslands you are going to have a bad fire like those idiots in California.
I dont have the right to manage someone elses forests or grasslands without their consent.
Youre hilariously missing why Trumps rake comments were absurd. Finns don’t rake their forests, because that would be stupid. The climate difference with California make fires much less of a concern.
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Originally posted by Aeson View PostIt does make sense to manage forests, clear out deadwood periodically ... but such takes funding, and using a rake for that sort of work is absurdly stupid.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Originally posted by Aeson View Post
Im turning our grasslands into forests so they won’t burn. I probably won’t rake them.
I dont have the right to manage someone elses forests or grasslands without their consent.
Youre hilariously missing why Trumps rake comments were absurd. Finns don’t rake their forests, because that would be stupid. The climate difference with California make fires much less of a concern.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Leaves are not the problem, having a good leaf (or needle) layer is important for the forest health. Without them the trees would dry out much faster, erosion would increase, soil fertility would decrease, and even short dry spells would be prone to disaster.
In any case you’re still missing the ridiculousness of keeping millions of acres of forsts, often in difficult terrain, raked.
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Originally posted by Aeson View PostThe manpower required to rake the millions of acres of forests is also absurd. It would also be a fire (and forest health) problem in and of itself as forests would dry out faster with no mulch.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
That depends on how much combustible materials they leave around. Californians can not blame their failure on the climate.
Climate change, specifically the way the jet steam has been affected, is definitely increasing the duration of extreme weather (droughts included) events.
In any case, raking the forests is a stupid idea.
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