Police beat, taze and put a bag on a black girls head.

[dannubis]

That's not necessarily true.

I told you in Zagreb I was trying to get a ticket and a guy told me "nah, just board the tram and if check comes say you're tourist. they'll let you go

THAT'S WHAT I CALL CIVILIZATION!
(and balkan co-camaradery)


In the nordic countries they'd probably put me doing community work plucking daisies for 50 years

(also zagreb is beautiful)

Just don't institutionalize this... OH WAIT

[Bereta_Eder]

Spitting in a cops face: Priceless
Your hospital bill: $20,000.

Welcome to America.

[dannubis]

Wha? I'm not defending the multi-tasing, I'm saying "well, she doesn't have a knife in this video of her resisting arrest" is remarkably silly. Of course she doesn't. She was supposedly threatening people with said knife, and she was resisting arrest quite vigorously without it. Why on earth would the cops let her keep it (assuming she had one in the first place)?

She was disarmed. She wasn't a risk anymore. Still some tasing is necessary?

I don't see how the point you are making is adding to that equation.

[Bereta_Eder]

Just don't institutionalize this... OH WAIT

Things to do in Brussels before:

Ride the metro go to the grande place, order a damme blance, stroll down debrouckere drink 5 beers at mort subite


Things to do now:

go quickly in the hotel, don't get in the metro, avoid tourist places and go walk like a clochard in remote places like jardin de botanique

[dannubis]

Somewhere there is a connection between the quote and your answer to it...

[Dinner]

You are clearly insane. He brutally assaulted her and if that had been your sister or mother you'd be raging.

My sister or mother wouldn't have pulled a knife on someone then tried to fight a police officer including spiting and biting. This is what an officer is supposed to do to subdue a violently resisting suspect or would you just have them ask pretty please? They clearly went tgrough the force continuum esclating only after the suspect did not comply with the previous measures.

Frabkly, I am thinking it is you who is deranged and unfairly biased against the officers.

[Dinner]

Kid seems to be trying really hard to take the crown from Ben as king ****stain on humanity.

As for gribbler and oerdin: nobody says she shouldn't have been arrested. What is being said is that she shouldn't have been tortured while being arrested.

Ding ding ding winner

No one was tortured that I saw. What I did see was a duspect fighting and violently resisting arrest so the officers were forced to go through the standard force continuum to subdue to resisting suspect. This is exactly what officers are trained to do and are supposed to do.

[Bereta_Eder]

Somewhere there is a connection between the quote and your answer to it...

no

[kentonio]

My sister or mother wouldn't have pulled a knife on someone then tried to fight a police officer including spiting and biting. This is what an officer is supposed to do to subdue a violently resisting suspect or would you just have them ask pretty please? They clearly went tgrough the force continuum esclating only after the suspect did not comply with the previous measures.

Frabkly, I am thinking it is you who is deranged and unfairly biased against the officers.

It continues to amaze me that we both (presumably) watched the same video and yet managed to take completely different conclusions from it.

[Dinner]

She was disarmed. She wasn't a risk anymore. Still some tasing is necessary?

I don't see how the point you are making is adding to that equation.

If she is continuing to resist then the purpose of the taser is to help subdue her. That is exactly how the cops used it.

[Dinner]

It continues to amaze me that we both (presumably) watched the same video and yet managed to take completely different conclusions from it.

It is called me being fact based and you being emotionally based on appearances. Your OP clearly demonstrates that. The cops followed the proper continuum for use of force only escalating after the previous measure did not result in the suspect ceasing to resist. They followed correct proceedure to subdue a violently resisting suspect who was suspected of being armed (though she apparently ditched the knife before the cops arrived, I imagine some security cam footage of the original event will be found).

[kentonio]

It is called me being fact based and you being emotionally based on appearances. Your OP clearly demonstrates that. The cops followed the proper continuum for use of force only escalating after the previous measure did not result in the suspect ceasing to resist. They followed correct proceedure to subdue a violently resisting suspect who was suspected of being armed (though she apparently ditched the knife before the cops arrived, I imagine some security cam footage of the original event will be found).

Well if you want to be hostile about it, I could equally say that its me being fact based and you being the victim of endless violent propaganda that has brainwashed you into believing that high levels of violence are the solution to every problem.

[giblets]

If someone is violently resisting arrest then the police have to use force

[kentonio]

If someone is violently resisting arrest then the police have to use force

The police use force here regularly, but force can be applied sparingly and with an emphasis on restraint. The issue I have with many of these American videos of police restraint are that they involve the officers appearing to try and batter the suspect into submission with the deliberate application of pain inducing techniques, the use of punches and kicks, and above all the over-use of tazers.

It appears to be more than anything else a difference in mentality. In the UK the police first and foremost try and defuse situations verbally, and only resort to force when absolutely required. In the US the mentality appears to be that by not immediately complying with a police command, you are resisting them and are fair game for the use of force. That is a really big difference in procedure.

[Kidlicious]

Kid seems to be trying really hard to take the crown from Ben as king ****stain on humanity.

As for gribbler and oerdin: nobody says she shouldn't have been arrested. What is being said is that she shouldn't have been tortured while being arrested.

Ding ding ding winner

This is a person who threatened to stab someone because she didn't get all the sour cream she thought she was entitled to thanks to people like you and kentonio. Eat �� you ****stain,