How many times does someone have to call you X before you realize they are insane?

[Egbert]

AAHZ is just placing a poast into this spot right here to say hello lol!

Hello AAHZ

[NICE MOBIUS]

Yes, I was insane back then. I don't know what I was thinking. I know I was against exploitation, but to believe in Marxism because of that seems insane to me.

And in another ten years you'll look back and realise that being a misogynist is insane too. Hopefully.

Hopefully sooner than that, too.

[Kidlicious]

And in another ten years you'll look back and realise that being a misogynist is insane too. Hopefully.

Hopefully sooner than that, too.

Being a mysogynist is insane. I never believed otherwise my insane friend.

[Dry]

Believing in men's rights is not insane.

It isn't, but the way you believe in it, THAT is borderline.
Being Muslim is not insane, but the way some do is.
Being Christian is not insane, but the way some do is.

You claim to be MRA, but the way you argue makes you look like a strawman MRA.

I have looked a little in the MRA world and while not yet an MRA, I see they have some points.
The problem is they attract people like you who understand only half of what they say and feed the anti-MRA mob.
From my perspective you really look like some feminist mole, playing the role of the uber-macho, conservative guy, the MRA archetype/strawman feminists like to portray. You score heavily for the feminist team.

And you certainly are a reason why I do not call myself an MRA. Until I sort out how many of your kind vs how many reasonable people are really in the MRA movement, I will not call myself such.
I would sometime post here explaining why, from my perspective, MRAs might have some points on some topics, but you are the reason why I do not.

Again, I am no MRA, but I really think you are an embarrassment for them.
Just like you're an embarrassment for some Christians here.

In fact you sound more like a traditionalist.

And after a small web search here is some enlightening discussion about the position of MRA/MR/MRM on traditionalism.
I haven't read all the comments, but the few I read sounded reasonable to me

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2j8tlt/isshould_the_mra_movement_be_based_in/

examples:

MRM exemplifies the values of liberty, equality, due process, and evidence. These are things which should resonate to some degree across the political spectrum, and indeed do. I've seen positive posts here from conservatives, libertarians, liberals, and socialists.
Ultimately, like any movement that hopes to survive, MRM must be open to the evidence. One of the gripes MRAs have with feminism is its religion-like adherence to dogma, in spite of the evidence. So I don't think traditionalism has much to offer MRM.

MRM seems to have a lot of sub-categories, just like feminism. There's some MRA that actually have most of their beliefs in line with feminism (the destruction of rigid gender roles based on the patriarchy that actually hurt most men and benefit mostly the wealthy).
Some MRA's believe in the 1950's ideal and actually use this subreddit as a weapon to further their agenda. For some this is a false-flag, red herring argument. I liken it to people who argue things like "how come there isn't a White Entertainment Television?" They lack the subtle understanding and nuance of historic systems of oppression.
Similar to feminism, besides the radical fringes, I'd say most MRAs fall somewhere in the middle. Without any data to back it up, anecdotally I'd say most men on here want TRUE egalitarianism, but are frustrated that the feminist ideal of equality is essentially leaving lower-middle and poor men behind.

And the one that would best describe my own view

I came to MR from a left/liberal background and still consider myself a liberal, although many liberal circles would cackle me out of the room if I outed myself as an MRA.
Personally I think the MRM at its best is a liberal/progressive movement, albeit one which questions some of the assumptions that are widely held as gospel among liberal/progressive circles. At its worst... yes, there are people with traditionalist views who frequent MRM spaces.
Interestingly, an accusation you'll hear from MRAs sometimes about feminism, is that feminists are unaware of the traditionalist assumptions present in their own movement - namely, ideas around agency and purity.

[Aeson]

What about those who never called you an X?

Since the future is not yet clear, I have to assume you all will eventually call me X at some point.

[KrazyHorse]

Boring and repetitive is enough.

You, being the mighty keyboard warrior, are a rabid and deranged loon who can not help himself. You thus respond well to trolling.

You are a known "keyboard warrior". A keyboard warrior is but a bully. A bully is a coward, a bore and a fvckwit.

And that is you.

I don't mind you trying to troll me (assuming that is what you are actually doing vs reacting like an angry little man) - I just wish you would find a way that was more interesting or more likely to succeed than repeating the same catchphrase dozens of times.

[Kidlicious]

It isn't, but the way you believe in it, THAT is borderline.
Being Muslim is not insane, but the way some do is.
Being Christian is not insane, but the way some do is.

You claim to be MRA, but the way you argue makes you look like a strawman MRA.

I have looked a little in the MRA world and while not yet an MRA, I see they have some points.
The problem is they attract people like you who understand only half of what they say and feed the anti-MRA mob.
From my perspective you really look like some feminist mole, playing the role of the uber-macho, conservative guy, the MRA archetype/strawman feminists like to portray. You score heavily for the feminist team.

And you certainly are a reason why I do not call myself an MRA. Until I sort out how many of your kind vs how many reasonable people are really in the MRA movement, I will not call myself such.
I would sometime post here explaining why, from my perspective, MRAs might have some points on some topics, but you are the reason why I do not.

Again, I am no MRA, but I really think you are an embarrassment for them.
Just like you're an embarrassment for some Christians here.

In fact you sound more like a traditionalist.

And after a small web search here is some enlightening discussion about the position of MRA/MR/MRM on traditionalism.
I haven't read all the comments, but the few I read sounded reasonable to me

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2j8tlt/isshould_the_mra_movement_be_based_in/

examples:




And the one that would best describe my own view

Its too bad that you aren't willing to call yourself an mra because a Christian calls himself one. It's true, I don't blame Christianity, or chivalry for the problems facing men today. There would be no men's movement if there were no feminist movement. The only reason that some mra have decided to make chivalry a boogyman is so that they don't get associated with it.

But I believe in men's rights despite my differences with others who do. It pains me to see someone like you come out against me like this. People who believe in men's rights should not fight against each other. That is precisely why I disagree with the non=traditionalist mra. They are not going ti get traditionalists to join the movement like that, which is very stupid. If you decide ro become mra I hope that you will not work to exclude allies.

[C0ckney]

with allies like you, who needs bitter enemies.

[rah]

Women are not *****. Only you are a ****. I haven't even called any women ***** on this page. I've only called ***** *****. You ****!

Then stop insulting people by telling them that they pee sitting down. It's demeaning to women and demonstrates your disdain for them.

[Kidlicious]

Then stop insulting people by telling them that they pee sitting down. It's demeaning to women and demonstrates your disdain for them.

Nope. I have no problem with women peeing sitting down. I also don't have a problem with women having vaginas. Try harder.

[NICE MOBIUS]

Logic fail.

[rah]

Nope. I have no problem with women peeing sitting down. I also don't have a problem with women having vaginas. Try harder.

Then why do you consider it an insult and use it so much? Again your actions disprove your denials.

[Kidlicious]

Then why do you consider it an insult and use it so much? Again your actions disprove your denials.

Nope. You're being ridiculous. An anti-feminist would never say that people hate men because they call people peckers because that would be an equally stupid argument. But not only do you keep making stupid arguments, but you keep saying it's proof because other liberal idiots agree with you.

[rah]

Why do you consider telling men that they pee sitting down an insult?

Might it be that you consider it inferior?

[NICE MOBIUS]

Hey Kid, I've just realised! You're from Oklahoma, aren't you!?