Moral outrage and the U.S. Civil War

[Aeson]

Wage slavery is a more efficient form of slavery but no less evil.

Instead of feeding, housing, and making sure your slaves are in good working condition, you just outsource all those functions to the greater economy.

Still slavery. Sorry.

It is not actually slavery.

As I said previously about free labor in the CSA, supporting the product of free labor is over time going to lead to better wages for them. It has happened all over the world, if at a slower pace than it should.

Activism could help increase the pace, and in some cases has, but only if done on a wide scale.

I think you just have problems with the more distasteful aspects of slavery but are perfectly content being a cracker just like the rest of us.

I have a problem with lots of things. I'm not sure what you mean by "a cracker just like the rest of us". "Like the rest of us" has rarely applied to me in any regard.

[Sava]

"from" as in "of"

because i'm not opposed to that

gotta use everything

[Sava]

It is not actually slavery.

You're wrong and a hypocrite.

[Sava]

I have a problem with lots of things. I'm not sure what you mean by "a cracker just like the rest of us". "Like the rest of us" has rarely applied to me in any regard.

"just like the rest of us" = someone who buys things

[Sava]

and, forgive me for saying, but look at where and how you live

it just screams white colonialist

[Aeson]

You're wrong and a hypocrite.

No, I am not wrong.

[giblets]

Whig history

[Sava]

No, I am not wrong.

whatever helps you sleep at night

because the people that made your **** probably aren't sleeping very well any night

[Aeson]

"just like the rest of us" = someone who buys things

Not everyone buys the same things.

and, forgive me for saying, but look at where and how you live

it just screams white colonialist

You don't know much about how I live.

[Aeson]

whatever helps you sleep at night

I find the bamboo bed with no mattress is actually very good for my sleeping. In the US with a mattress I always had problems.

I can't really say anything good about the toilet I used for most of the last 6 years though, except that it kept a guy from wasting time on the pot.

[Sava]

Not everyone buys the same things.

Indeed. But unless you are posting by way of carrier pigeon.....

You don't know much about how I live.

True. But I've seen your workstation. Many a FOXXCONN (probably) employee worked hard to assemble your tech. How many do you think have committed suicide since you bought your stuff?

but that's not slavery, right? people kill themselves all the time

I find the bamboo bed with no mattress is actually very good for my sleeping. In the US with a mattress I always had problems.

I can't really say anything good about the toilet I used for most of the last 6 years though, except that it kept a guy from wasting time on the pot.

Sounds terrible.

[Lorizael]

people kill themselves all the time

They kinda do.

[ZEE]

I'm sorry, I'm out. Remove me from staff here. I've already unfriended you on Facebook.

You've really disappointed me.

Imran, one of the longest running Staff members in Apolyton-Historyâ„¢ steps down because of this thrade!

I am officially amazed.

[Sava]

They kinda do.

yup

some because they are forced to work in tech sweatshops for rich westerners

[Aeson]

I wanted to take some time and think about what happened here before responding further on the more serious topic. I'd just like to say I think Imran is a good person, and someone who's given a lot to Apolyton both as a poster and while on staff. The games played on this forum can get a bit intense, and Imran and I have gone at it before. I'm sorry things got too personal this time, that was never my intent.