Once again, French surrender monkeys saved by brave USians

[grumbler]

I'm saying US culture drives you to see things in childishly simplistic terms of bad guy/good guy and brave/coward. You can add right/wrong in there too if you like.

For the staff to get nearby passengers to safety in the face of a terrible threat to all their lives is an act of intelligence and compassion. The passengers who restrained the attacker felt they would otherwise be killed, so their action was logical and intelligent. What I'm having a serious issue with is this schoolyard attitude where because of the latter, the former suddenly becomes cowardice.

This kind of bull**** leads to people risking their lives in ways they simply do not need to, which as I mentioned is apparently why you lose so many more firefighters than other countries.

I wonder what US you are talking about here? I've lived all over the word, and while I would agree with an assertion that the US has fewer social norms than most places I have lived, I've never lived in the US you believe exists. Maybe you should make these kinds of sweeping generalizations more about things you know about and less about things you wish were true.

[kentonio]

I wonder what US you are talking about here? I've lived all over the word, and while I would agree with an assertion that the US has fewer social norms than most places I have lived, I've never lived in the US you believe exists. Maybe you should make these kinds of sweeping generalizations more about things you know about and less about things you wish were true.

Or maybe you should read the studies that examine the rates of emergency service workers deaths and the reasons behind them, instead of just assuming its a sweeping generalization?

[The Mad Monk]

Its ok, I get it. You're all super brave badass cool guys, who would kill the bad guys and save the day. You're my heroes.

You realize that that sit and die / act and die comment was made by your own countryman, right?

[giblets]

So it's better to be trapped in a burning building in the US than in France?

[SlowwHand]

I said MAYBE die. To huddle like sheep is illogical.

[C0ckney]

i've been in a situation where shots were fired at fairly close quarters, though it wasn't clear exactly where they came from and no one was hurt. people's reactions, while perhaps individually sensible - running into the shops, trying to get off the bridge, the staff at the shopping centre pulling down the metal grates, locking the entrances, etc. - when taken as a whole, added up to a scene of blind panic.

it's very easy to say what is the right thing to do from a distance, and affirm that we ourselves would do it, but in truth no one really knows how they will react until they are put in such a position. people who have military training, as i believe these men did, probably have more capacity to react in these kind of situations. it's no coincidence that most people here who successfully react to robberies (i.e. not get themselves killed or crippled in the process) are members of the armed forces or military police.

[Sava]

There's a theory that Americans have a serious hero complex that results in far higher rates of firefighters and cops dying in the line of duty than other nations. Due to your culture they apparently take far greater risks and subsequently suffer the consequences of that. The train staff in this situation did exactly the right thing (apparently grabbed some nearby passengers and locked themselves into a more secure area).

Real life isn't a Lethal Wepaon movie, when you put yourself up against an armed attacker, the normal result is that you wind up dead. As one of the Americans involved said, the only reason they survived was that the attackers gun jammed. Blind luck basically.

I think the combination of low IQ and small penis size is to blame.

Dickless, racist, retarded cowards who can barely tie their own shoes feel like heroes because they have a gun.

It's ****ing pathetic.

[Sava]

One Frenchman tried, then ran away. The Brit that helped the Americans got it right. Sit and die or attack and maybe die.

You are a disgrace and should be deported to the moon.

[Dinner]

Supposedly the Americans were sitting in the bathroom and heard the guy loading and cocking the rifle. Maybe they were more on edge simply because it was an Arab with a full muji beard walking into the bathroom with a large heavy duffle bag.

In any event, one stood in front of the door and the other behind the door so when the Arab came out with a gun and a knife they jumped his ass. At that point intervention seems the better option especially since they had the element of surprise on their would be attacker.

[SlowwHand]

Then I suppose you're a sheep, Sava.

[pchang]

Anglade's dacription of the train staff actions differs significantly form Kentonio's. If it really went down more like Kentonio's said, I would be more understanding of the train staff's actions. Anglade's narrative paints a much poorer picture.

[Sava]

Then I suppose you're a sheep, Sava.

me?

every time I read this forum, you are the one getting fucked in the ass by a welshman

[Dinner]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34032231

Cellphone video right after the attack. After they beat and subdued the would be attacker they hog tied him with his own muji robes which I find very fitting. You can hear the would be warrior of a false god whining and moaning on the floor after he just got his ass handed to him.

The AK-47 is also pictured.

[Sava]

^^ also a racist ****ing disgrace who should be deported to the moon

[Dinner]

The truth is never wrong even if you don't like it. BTW muhajadeen is a muslim term and not racist. It is how they self identify, genius.