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    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • What are our racial interests and perspectives alluded to in the article?
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      "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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      • Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
        Again, I can't make a diagnosis from a videotape, but from what I saw, I disagree.
        Moi aussi. In the video it is apparent that as he is being put into the van he is having a great deal of difficulty using his legs. His legs appear to be weak and uncoordinated. A spinal injury could do that.
        "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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        • "Prosecutors accused of hiding evidence in Freddie Gray case"

          BALTIMORE -- Attorneys for the six police officers charged in Freddie Gray's death say prosecutors steered investigators away from allegations about Gray's behavior in past interactions with law enforcement. The attorneys claim detectives were told Gray had a history of participating in "crash-for-cash" schemes in which people hurt themselves to collect settlements - a piece of information attorneys say would be useful for their case.

          Gray died on April 19, a week after suffering a critical spinal injury in the back of a police van. Gray's death spurred days of largely peaceful protests followed by rioting and looting last April 27.

          Six officers were charged with crimes ranging from misdemeanor assault to "depraved-heart" murder.

          In a motion filed Thursday in Baltimore Circuit Court, defense attorneys allege that investigators for the Baltimore Police Department had information that Gray had a history of intentionally injuring himself in order to collect insurance money. The attorneys allege in the filing that police investigators knew that Gray once injured himself so severely while in a Baltimore jail that he required medical attention. The attorneys say in documents that when police investigators tried to follow up on the evidence, prosecutors in the state's attorney's office told them "not to do the defense attorneys' jobs for them."

          Defense attorneys also say in the motion that high-ranking members of the state's attorney's office met with Dr. Carole Allen of the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner a week before Gray's autopsy was complete and his death ruled a homicide. In addition, attorneys say the prosecutors didn't provide the medical examiner's office with a copy of the statement of Donta Allen, a man who had been inside the police van where Gray suffered his injury. Investigators initially said Allen told them that Gray had been making banging noises in the back of the van. But Allen later told the media that police had exaggerated his account.

          Rochelle Ritchie, spokeswoman for State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby, declined comment on the recent filing.

          The officers are scheduled to face trial in October, with a hearing on motions set for one month prior. Defense attorneys have asked a judge to move the trial out of Baltimore, arguing that pre-trial publicity will taint the integrity of the jury pool. Additionally, defense attorneys have asked for State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby and her office to be removed from the case, citing alleged conflicts of interest. The most recent filing is in support of that request.

          "The statement to investigators 'not do the defense attorneys' jobs for them' would seem to indicate some level of knowledge that exculpatory evidence exists which could benefit the officers charged in Mr. Gray's death and that the prosecutor did not want this information uncovered by investigators," the attorneys wrote in the motion.

          An attorney for the Gray family did not immediately return a call for comment Friday.

          Meanwhile, a psychological firm paid to evaluate troubled Baltimore police, including a lieutenant charged in Gray's killing, is under investigation by the city and has been put on probation by the state police for cutting corners in its mental health screenings of officers.
          The plot thickens

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          • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
            A lot of police vans don't even have seatbelts for arrested people, so that you can't use them to harm yourself or others.

            3 of the officers charged are black, 3 are white.
            I know it's been months, but still...how do you hurt another person with a seatbelt when you're both handcuffed?
            No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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            • Originally posted by giblets View Post
              "Prosecutors accused of hiding evidence in Freddie Gray case"



              The plot thickens
              Only if you assume he had the skilz to undo a seatbelt while in handcuffs.
              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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              • It seems like he could deliberately bang his head against the metal side of the vehicle even with the seat belt on. He does have a history of self harm in order to claim settlement money.
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                • reddie Gray suffered a single "high-energy injury" to his neck and spine — most likely caused when the police van in which he was riding suddenly decelerated, according to a copy of the autopsy report obtained by The Baltimore Sun.

                  The state medical examiner's office concluded that Gray's death could not be ruled an accident, and was instead a homicide, because officers failed to follow safety procedures "through acts of omission."

                  Though Gray was loaded into the van on his belly, the medical examiner surmised that he may have gotten to his feet and was thrown into the wall during an abrupt change in direction. He was not belted in, but his wrists and ankles were shackled, putting him "at risk for an unsupported fall during acceleration or deceleration of the van."

                  The medical examiner compared Gray's injury to those seen in shallow-water diving incidents.
                  I find it highly doubtful that anybody could generate enough force, in a seated position, to suffer an injury equivalent to a "shallow-water diving incident".
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