Chimpanzees granted 'legal persons' status to defend their rights in court

[Kidlicious]

If AI will be human-like, just smarter, what could be wrong with that? But I don't think futurists really understand how we think. Just because they could learn doesn't mean they will dominate us.

[Aeson]

Every other sci-fi movie ever made

[kentonio]

Just because they could learn doesn't mean they will dominate us.

Why wouldn't they?

[Kidlicious]

Why wouldn't they?

I believe that's human nature. That's not necessarily the result of learning.

[Kidlicious]

AI will have intellect, but not will.

[kentonio]

I believe that's human nature. That's not necessarily the result of learning.

If an AI is in a situation where something is beneficial to them but not to us, why would they put our needs ahead of their own?

[Kidlicious]

If an AI is in a situation where something is beneficial to them but not to us, why would they put our needs ahead of their own?

I'm skeptical that they will ever have the capability to make such decisions.

[Kidlicious]

If they are ever capable, perhaps they will make good decisions.

[Dinner]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdmqn9JIuzc

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

I'd cheerfully eat chimpanzee meat.

[Kidlicious]

Animals are delicious.

[Jon Miller]

So you starting with a rant about intelligence tests and then decided to take a U-turn into retardville? So suddenly the ability to communicate, use basic tools and **** knows what else chimps have shown they can do doesn't make them intelligent because they're not flying planes or doing physics experiments? So basically your benchmark for 'things that can class as intelligent' is exactly what humans just happen to be doing? This is why people like you (and to be fair a huge number of other scientists) piss me off, you can see a creature who is carrying out a range of complex tasks and clearly capable of not only communication but social and interpersonal relationships, and write them off as 'not intelligence' for reasons that are frankly bizarre.

Did you read Proteus post?

He was saying that Chimps were like Homo Sapien Sapien 100k years ago starting with simple tools.

My point is that the statement is retarded, you can take a child of a Homo Sapien Sapien from 100k years ago and have them be a world renown artist or an inventor or what have you.

You don't get that with Chimps. They won't advance beyond 'simple tools' because they don't have the intelligence. If they had the intelligence they could learn from us, like young humans can.

JM
(I am not sure whether Dolphins have the intelligence or not, they are heavily handicapped due to living in water.)

[Jon Miller]

My initial point is that the claim that Chimps or what have you (Dogs? really??) are like human children/toddlers/etc is stupid.

Human children/toddlers/etc are vastly more intelligent than any animal.

JM

[Sava]

Clearly, you don't have pets.

[Elok]

I'd cheerfully eat chimpanzee meat.

I wouldn't, but mostly because they're dirty animals. They very likely taste like pork.

Re: cruelty, I don't believe gratuitous cruelty is ever morally permissible, even to gnats or plants. But neither do I believe that the level of mental sophistication found in any non-human beast makes it more than a beast. If we have the option to, say, conduct medical research on chimps, for example, it seems a no-brainer. Test on chimps, test on humans, or don't do the research and possibly have more humans die? Well, tough luck for Mr. Termite-fisher.